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Post by Midland on Apr 2, 2017 19:37:16 GMT
Got to my little darling, well her tender and finished the couplings and put on the angles that attach the tender body to the frames or chasis. So progress is underway. Pics soon but still got a bit more to do! cheers D
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Post by Midland on Apr 30, 2017 19:41:02 GMT
In case you think I am slacking, made some progress on the tender chasis today, made the brake shaft bit and it was a pig. 2017 04 30 001 by David Goyder, on Flickr and you can see it here it is right side up ready for mounting the tank, 2017 04 30 004 by David Goyder, on Flickr and upside down to see all the little bits Don Young likes to put in, 2017 04 30 003 by David Goyder, on Flickr Have to make the springs and then the wheels and brake gear can go on, 2017 04 30 002 by David Goyder, on Flickr The only wory is all the holes in the frames need to be filled by I am not quite sure what, screws I guess but holding what? Well we keep at it!! Cheesr D
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Post by Midland on May 2, 2017 13:24:03 GMT
Not quite sure where this goes, but needed some spring steel strip and all the usual model suppliers did not have any. Found Milton Keynes Metals Ltd tel 01296 713631 and the very nice chap there is sending me 4 feet. And have a look at his website, all sorts of good stuff. D
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Post by Midland on May 10, 2017 19:55:52 GMT
Hi All
Just completed putting 150 bolts into the tender frame, what a horrible job and rolled my spring steel. Springs next, getting quite exciting! D
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Post by Midland on Jun 9, 2017 21:10:27 GMT
Oh what a horrible engine. Now putting the axle guard covers on and where did I drill holes twenty years ago. This is all Roger’s fault, in the wrong place! Now if Roger had talked to me about these digital gismos I might have put the holes in the right place, but where was he in 1995? I bet swanking around some high tech campus chasing girls!”!!!` And I am making 12 ba Studs! Anyway, very bespoke, as they say and soon to be done. Just another little step forward. D
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Post by Midland on Jun 10, 2017 21:54:10 GMT
Well the drawings say that that all L & Y engines had vermillion inside frames. So as a bit of a lark I painted them just that that way. Makes it look look a tart. Perhaps Chris’s book might help but what a Mrs. May! No pic, sorry - too embarrassed!
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Post by mbrown on Jun 11, 2017 10:30:17 GMT
Not sure which drawings you mean, but I doubt if tender frames were ever painted vermillion on the insides ( I stand to be corrected by an L&Y expert). The reason for painting the inside of frames red was to reflect the light better so that the driver could see when oiling up. I am not sure why bright red became more or less standard for this (the GER used pale yellow) but all the painting specs I have seen show the inside of tender frames done in black.
It does add a splash of "lipstick" though, so if that's what turns you on.....!
Malcolm
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 13:16:49 GMT
Bear in mind that in the era we're talking about, there were no synthetic paints and red was an expensive colour to produce, so it was used sparingly. I've certainly never heard of any tender frames being painted red inside.
Where red (or any other colour) was used on the inside of engine frames, it was only in the area where the inside motion was situated, for the reason Malcolm has stated. Most model engineers seem to think the red went from one end to the other - if only they'd get out of their workshops and take a look at some preserved locos!
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Post by Midland on Jun 16, 2017 19:26:23 GMT
Not sure which drawings you mean, but I doubt if tender frames were ever painted vermillion on the insides ( I stand to be corrected by an L&Y expert). The reason for painting the inside of frames red was to reflect the light better so that the driver could see when oiling up. I am not sure why bright red became more or less standard for this (the GER used pale yellow) but all the painting specs I have seen show the inside of tender frames done in black. It does add a splash of "lipstick" though, so if that's what turns you on.....! Malcolm The Don Young drawings simply say that L & Y tender frames were painted vermillion, both inside and out (frames that is). It bit bizarre but just doing what I am told. When you tell me more I will paint them your colour!!! D
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Post by mbrown on Jun 17, 2017 9:16:01 GMT
As I say, I stand to be corrected and, to be fair to Don, he did have help from a couple of L&Y experts like Len Hough when designing these models. My books on L&Y locos don't mention the painting of frames at all.
In the absence of definitive evidence, my own choice would be to go with the logic of why inner frames were sometimes red and do them black except in the area of the motion. But it's your loco and, as I said, it does brighten things up a bit - so your call!
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Post by kipford on Jun 26, 2017 17:12:03 GMT
David I am completing my 3D CAD model of the Aspinal. One of the reasons for doing was to see how much I could laser cut and the ash pan fall into this category. As far as I can tell from the drawings the ash pan (simplified or scale) has no provision to be able to easily drop the fire. It appears the ash pan is screwed to the boiler and in addition the rear driver brake beam and the brake pull rod will prevent the ash pan being dropped as drawn see below. I was wondering if you had looked at this aspect of the loco, if you know what anyone else has done (The scale man in me is appalled at the idea of not being able to have the loco correctly configured). Ash Pan
By the way I have in excess of 150 parts to get laser cut (my retirement present from work is getting expensive!). Regards Dave
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