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Post by delaplume on Sept 25, 2020 21:53:30 GMT
OK, here's to-day's efforts}------------------ Further work on the bowser project......Here the vertical and horizontal bars have been "tinned! with soft solder..... The first attachment of a vertical and horizontal bar}------ The first "Dry" assembly of the 2 retaining units--------
Next will be adding rivet detail, hinges on the bottom of the vertical legs, and some detail finishing work on the wooden beams....
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Post by dscott on Sept 26, 2020 2:32:12 GMT
Managed an hour outside but took the cover down before it blew away!! It has been useful on the hottest of days while the workshop base was done. WOW the WIND was strong.
Back in the workshop I began milling hook guides. For buffer beams. When you unexpectedly have several hours of a job cancelled have something boring ready to participate in. It is usually wheel fetterling. I was not bored enough to do a tidy up. This all gets bunged in the extension until next years hot sunny day tempts an organise.
David and Lily.
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Post by delaplume on Sept 26, 2020 8:58:32 GMT
------- or another Lockdown is imposed !!.....LoL
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Post by dscott on Sept 27, 2020 1:24:10 GMT
I am now going to turn the Workshop Extension into a Food and Toilet Roll store so we can hang out until 2025 at least. The 5 apple trees have done well this year. Grapes also. Grass not been cut all summer. Jessie parts taking top priority. Also the Wall.
Yes did the base today and the blocks and organised the timber battens. Insulation between tomorrow. Then floor. Then waterproof covering. I need to Raid the House for more windows. Save on Window Tax. Choose a day and go for it.
David and Lily.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 8:13:59 GMT
I did some more late night reading last night of this excellent book on Gresley and the team around him. Another strange design is shown in drawings, this was a V6 'uniflow' engine, 3 large cylinders mounted either side of the smokebox, a very strange looking engine. Details are given to it's design, evidently the idea was dropped as working out a suitable bevel gear drive presented difficulties. The author goes on to say that one can almost hear a sigh of relief from Gresley's team when this idea from their CME's dynamic personality was dropped. Also noted is that Bert Spencer seemed to act as a back-stop on a number of these strange proposals. I also learnt more on the introduction of 'Long lap valves' from what I have read before, history has suggested that the A1's were only modified after some LNER engineers sneaked a peek at the 'Castle' class at display at Wembley after the trials of 1925. This is false, yes the trials convinced Gresley to do the mods but the motion design used for this had already been drawn up in 1924, it wasn't implemented at that time due to the cost and the fact that the A1's were performing perfectly well at that time. Another lovely bit of info was 4472's first non stop run on May 1st 1928. It didn't surprise me to know that Gresley was on the train, Spenser too. What I didn't know was that Gresley made a number of visits to the cab through the tender and in fact took the controls during these visits on this historic journey. Lot's of fabulous history in this book and I'm not even half way yet... Pete
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Post by barlowworks on Sept 27, 2020 8:57:19 GMT
The Midland Railway had the Padget locomotive, An eight cylinder prototype again using uniflow cylinders arranged in two banks of four between the frames of the loco and driving all driving axles of a 2-6-2 wheel arrangement. It was not built by the loco department but as a private project by the General Superintendent and not a great success, once blocking the Midland main line for 7 hours when it ceased up on a test run. It was finally scrapped while the builder was away on military service in France. Definitely one the drawing office lads would have dreaded working on.
Mike
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 10:16:11 GMT
The Midland Railway had the Padget locomotive, An eight cylinder prototype again using uniflow cylinders arranged in two banks of four between the frames of the loco and driving all driving axles of a 2-6-2 wheel arrangement. It was not built by the loco department but as a private project by the General Superintendent and not a great success, once blocking the Midland main line for 7 hours when it ceased up on a test run. It was finally scrapped while the builder was away on military service in France. Definitely one the drawing office lads would have dreaded working on. Mike Here's a drawing of Gresley's idea Mike, not sure who drew this up as it never officially made it to the drawing office, clearly someone has taken Gresley's sketches and produced this drawing. Considering Spencer did a presentation on this idea in 1947, perhaps it was he who did the drawing? Pete
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Post by steamer5 on Sept 27, 2020 10:18:46 GMT
Hey David, You are missing some priority stores, if you are going to locked up that long I hope the steel brass etc store has also been well stocked!
Cheers Kerrin
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Post by kipford on Sept 27, 2020 13:11:52 GMT
Pete Because of you enthusiasm for the Gresley book mine has turned up ready to accompany me on holiday to Cornwall on Thursday. Eclectic mix of books going, the Gresley book and Ron Tauranacs autobiography, if you do not know who he is Google him, Pete will know. Dave
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 13:22:20 GMT
Hope you enjoy the book Dave, it's heavy isn't it?... I have to confess that I had to Google Ron.... Should be an interesting read. I was in Cornwall a few weeks back..it's been a while since there last, loved it... Pete
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Post by delaplume on Sept 27, 2020 14:34:18 GMT
Peter, Did my basic RN Apprenticeship Training at HMS Fisgard, Torpoint, Cornwall.......Enjoyed many rides out into the county on my Honda CB160... Final training, Watchkeeping Certification etc at HMS Caledonia, Rosyth, Scotland...... have a look at this}---- www.ocaaa.org/about%20us.htmThat was a genuine question of mine earlier ie}--- Just how did Gresley come up with the A4 streamlined profile ??................. I don't think Churchward invented Long Travel, Long Lap valve gear but he certainly spent a great deal of time developing it.....His 2-cyl Saints and 4-Cyl. Stars featured this in the early part of the 20th century...........It's that long lap that gives the time to have expansive working ( and thus save the Fireman's life in the process ).. I have to hold my hand up at this point and confess to having very little exposure to an LNER product.....To this day I still think linking -up with what looks like a vertical handbrake column is a bit odd --LoL !!....OK, joking aside you have to admire the engineering involved .......Those slender, High Tensile con. rods compared to the slab-sided, fish-belly Plain Carbon steel is a case in point... Mention Uniflow and the name Stumpf comes to mind}------- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Stumpf_(engineer)#:~:text=Johann%20Sstumpf%20of%20the%20Charlottenburg%20Technical%20Colle
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 15:30:21 GMT
Peter, That was a genuine question of mine earlier ie}--- Just how did Gresley come up with the A4 streamlined profile ??................. Sorry, Alan, my profound apologies, I had missed your early post or if I had read it I completely forgot to reply. I haven't got to this section yet, there looks like a lot of detail on the A4's and W1, I'm sure that I'm going to enjoy learning yet more about Gresley and the LNER. I can share these two photos from the book in the section covering the A4, the first looks like technical notes and various nose shapes, the second is I believe scale models for wind tunnel testing. Note that these represent both LNER and LMS designs as they were created by the same person, or so I believe, as I said, I haven't read this section yet. Regards Pete
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 18:42:01 GMT
During these COVID times, I thought that I would share this for a bit of a laugh, I think that I mentioned this before but anyway, here's a couple of pictures with yours truly in front of the camera for Tom Hanks Angels and Demons. A lot of the sets we built, those who have seen the film will be aware of the various fires and collapsed sacred buildings, well the Pope wasn't going to let Tom do that now was he? so they were either scaled models or sets, lots of Michelangelo work involved in this film... I hasten to add that I was a little bit heavier back then, mind you, since March the pounds have certainly been piling on again...lol Here's a green screenshot, taken at Shepperton Studio's which is where the model sets were also filmed, yours truly seen draped in a flag or something like that, it was Angus's idea, he was directing this second unit shoot, a couple of good buddies either side of me. And here's a still from the film that was posted on my FB timeline, the chap to the left of me in the first picture (David) posted it with arrows to point me out... probably in case I couldn't see for my self. And so thanks to the magic of the movies I manage to appear twice in the same shot just after the helicopter explodes and we have all been blown down. This scene is immediately behind Tom and his Co-star as they recover from the blast too. I did have a good old laugh back in those days and now you guys can laugh at it too... or just at me......... Pete
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Post by JonL on Sept 27, 2020 19:06:51 GMT
I love the diverse background of the various people on this forum! Imagine how we would do at pub quizzes, or trivial pursuit!
I've been an extra too, but only because I'm missing a leg and amputees make valuable extras. Usually war films... never a speaking part!
What is your specfic role? Is it constructing the models themselves?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 19:39:52 GMT
Hi Nobby, I was in the 'visual effects' department which covers a lot of things. model making being the normal work, set and prop building and special effects too, this usually involves blowing things up. For anyone who's seen Danny Boyle's film 'Sunshine', in that I was both special and model effects, I was part of the team who built the models and also part of the team who destroyed them. This was shot at 3 Mills in Bow... in the film, the spaceship/station gets very close to the sun and extremities break apart, IIRC solar panels etc ...This shot was filmed on a closed set, even Danny had to be outside of the stage directing via video. Your's truly and one other was on the stage in a bomb-proof shelter built in one corner, my job was to operate the remote for the space station to spin and that triggered the twin 12 bore shotguns which blew the station to bits but only around the edges..This was a nervous shot as it was the 'money shot' a one-hit-wonder which I had to get right... it wasn't just a case of pushing a button, I had to carefully ramp up the speed on a vario as too fast a start would have made the model wobble and thus ruin the shot, added to this was the fact that I needed to remember to turn the vario the right way, I spun it the wrong direction on one test run. All this had to be done in time, in just mere seconds on Danny's order to shoot..The reason for that was the very high speed of the camera.. any mess up on my part in either timing or accidently destroying the model at the wrong time would have cost production £100k's. IIRC the other guy with me behind the guns was Sam, can't recall his last name..Probably my most nerve-racking job in the decades that I worked in films.... btw, my last credit was as Art Director on a British independent movie.
Many a fun day was had back then, many a very, very long day too, worse being 34 hours straight...lol
Pete
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 19:49:42 GMT
one for you W1 fans... there is a fairly involved section on the building of W1.. Spencer has provided his original copies of drawings, including the first concept which was basically a stretched A1 with a big bulge in the boiler. There's also Spencer's personal copy of the W1 where he has written annotations in red, this is dated 26-8-32, so two years after W1 was built. The date looks highlighted in red so perhaps changes made/noted to the original drawings. Anyway, it's noted that there seemed to be a lot of wind tunnel testing of W1's shape, here's a late-stage testing model, to me it looks approx 5" gauge? Johansen seen on the left is the same guy who was responsible for the nose sections for the A4 and the LMS streamlined Coronation. I haven't read the section itself yet, looking forward to getting to it. Pete
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Post by delaplume on Sept 27, 2020 21:11:10 GMT
Hi Peter ------- and thank you so very much indeed for that fascinating glimpse into the world of visual effects....It's not what you see, but what you think you see, isn't it ??.........sort of like my contract with the MoD back in the day.... For prototype Locos have a look at this}------- Prototype Locomotives by Robert Tufnell .... ISBN = 0 7153 8397 3 They're all in there....The Padget, The Fell, The Kitson-Still, LNER No.10000, LMS Fury etc, etc with lots of lovely "in-house" photos to drool over.... Well worth adding to your library..... Hello--- what's that creeping into the lower, R/H side of the photo then ?? OK, back on thread again.............this morning Joyce and I stood in a cold, damp field from 06.00 to 12.00 ( Note to Civvies---- 24.00 does not exist in the 24Hr clock system )....and I came home £40 better off... Yes, we were car boot selling....in my case the money goes towards a new, brick-built garden shed --- urgently needed to replace the rotting wooden one at the bottom of the rear garden....This will be in the style of a Railway waiting room with overhanging pointed eaves etc as my test track will terminate here.....Also all of those damm garden tools that currently have invaded my machine shop building can be re-homed !!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 21:22:53 GMT
Ah..yes I wonder what that is sneaking in bottom right?... The book looks interesting too....I love your idea for a brick outhouse... Pete
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Post by delaplume on Sept 27, 2020 21:40:30 GMT
Ah..yes I wonder what that is sneaking in bottom right?...:) The book looks interesting too....I love your idea for a brick outhouse...:) Pete It's a mounted pewter model of The Mallard by Royal Hampshire which Joyce bought for me from a charity shop for £1 !!......It's a lovely bit 'o kit --- finely detailed with things like the "Cod's Mouth" clearly shown, and the circular window at the rear of the tender.......... .When I was contracting at the SVR we had No.9 in as a guest loco and for some running repairs so I took the oppertunity to have a walk through that corridoor..........most off-putting !!....Cramped, semi-dark, cold.....and that was just standing still !!.....God knows what the noise and swaying must have been like at say 60 mph plus !!............but as far as I'm aware unique to this country ??
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Post by Lisa on Sept 29, 2020 4:22:54 GMT
Hi folks, just thought I'd drop by for look at what everyone's up to. Currently I'm without a workshop, as I'm staying in someone's spare room while my dad's house is sold (a neighbour made an offer before it was even put on the market, so it's under contract, and hopefully will be sold in 2 weeks), so everything's packed away for now. Blowfly has been sold to someone down south, as I think I'm just going to stick with 3½" gauge from here on (unless I decided to build a tinkerbell or something at some point, but either way I'm out of 5"). By some luck, I'm currently staying about half an hour's walk from a club track, but there's no running days due to the pandemic restrictions. In any case I wondered down for a look the other day, and walked around the track (also a good chippy next door, so that was lunch sorted). Planning and hoping for a nice little house of my own in the next few months; and by house I mean a workshop with living quarters attached, and a spare room to put a model railway in.
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