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Post by Jim on Oct 21, 2012 20:41:33 GMT
Cab Ears The new 3/8" lugs will make useful mounting points for the valances (I hope!). JB Now that's a good idea. Must put that in the 'Tips' book for when I get to that stage in the not too distant future, says he with soothing ale in hand.  Jim |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 20:57:48 GMT
I'm bowing out for a while whilst we look after M in Law. I have withdrawn the Brit from Sandown Park and I'm going into my pottery occasionally while I still have the strength to knead the clay!
See you next year.
JB
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Post by Jim on Oct 25, 2012 22:18:19 GMT
Hope the break isn't too long John but understand the situation.
Jim
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2012 13:54:25 GMT
Hey JB... Don't be a stranger for to long mate, I for one enjoy your updates and the quality of your work, it's Sandown's loss that you won't be exhibiting this year.
Take care
Pete
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Post by Midland on Nov 6, 2012 20:47:43 GMT
Glad to see JB is in town!
I just might tell him of my latest project as he is just around the corner so as to speak!!
Cheers M aka david
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Post by digger on Nov 10, 2012 1:27:20 GMT
A beautiful piece of engineering, a credit to you!
Digger
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 21:47:51 GMT
Thanks Digger, right now I need a bit of motivation! I've gone back into the workshop today to do something simple, like the running boards. WRONG! LBSC states that I should make some little brackets and screw them into the boiler. As we now have some nice cladding that won't be possible, so I thought about putting mounting brackets on the inside of the frames where they would not be seen. I have some 24" lengths of 5/16" brass angle to accommodate said boards and valances. Here is a pic of my first go at the LH running board. You can see the wood veneer template that I used, but it didn't work out very well, so the metal version is a bit off too! I shall have to make another one.....  No choice but to lift the boiler and survey the situation. Here is the first bracket ready for fixing using longer guide bar bracket screws.  I intend to fix just three brackets and get a good fit on the running boards, then scribe on the outside to fix the bracket width and cut them off to fit.  Much to my satisfaction the valance will just clear the reverser arm! JB |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 14:03:19 GMT
looking good JB, I think I'd do the same as you in making up some brackets for the foot plates, the thought of drilling holes in the boiler purely for holding the foot plates gives me shivers,,yikes...  Kind regards Pete |
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Post by Jim on Nov 20, 2012 21:18:17 GMT
As usual I'm watching with keen interest the solution you develop John, given I had exactly the same misalignment of the cab side lugs and the valances.  I'm tending to the idea of a bracket maybe mounted on a pad incorporated in the crinolines that support the boiler cladding. That's ages away yet as you need a completed boiler first. ;D ;D Jim |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 9:36:45 GMT
FFS.. why?.... You know DJ sometimes enough is enough.. it's plainly obvious to all here that you have a personal clash with JB, it has nothing to do with his work now does it? I bet JB could have the best loco ever built and you'd still, as you put it " have an occasional dig"
Your like a Pit Bull that refuses to let go and will hang on even as it's beaten to death, well be careful or you'll end up like them and become a banned species( in UK) .
So let's just get along can we please and I'd bet that in no way shape or form did Shawki mean for you to act as you are here.
Rant over and note no smiley faces from me...lol
Pete
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Post by Jim on Nov 21, 2012 13:43:20 GMT
Oh no! Don't tell that we are now in for a series of destructive and negative comments directed at JB's build.
I can't believe that Shawki of all people would invite someone to join the site to 'simply stir things up' with the sort of comments seen above.
Jim
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Post by ejparrott on Nov 21, 2012 19:56:30 GMT
We can quite simply do without any of that.
Those brackets look almost protoypical, job top there. I would imagine by fixing to the chassis like that you can avoid having to remove them when lifting the boiler - I don't like the sound of attaching to that either!
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Post by pault on Nov 21, 2012 20:57:32 GMT
Hi All
I think you will find that the full sized locos had brackets similar to the ones JB has made, I do not believe that the running boards were fixed to the boiler at any point. I think I may be able to lay my hands on a picture that shows the underside of the running boards.
Looking good JB.
Regards
Paul
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Post by RLWP on Nov 21, 2012 21:13:25 GMT
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Post by pault on Nov 21, 2012 21:30:29 GMT
Hi All
I stand corrected, however i think i would have brackets off the frames.
Regards
Paul
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Post by Jim on Nov 21, 2012 21:42:08 GMT
Many thanks Richard for those very useful photos of the underside of a Britannia, there's much handy detail there.
re you second question.
Normally the forum is very supportive, good humored and helpful. Sadly there is an exception.
Jim
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Post by RLWP on Nov 21, 2012 21:48:20 GMT
Thanks Jim, I guess that would be the case. This website: britanniabuilder.com/has a useful collection of photos and links - that's how I found those photos. There's a lot of stuff on the internet if you know how to search for it Richard |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 19:50:28 GMT
I've fitted two brackets, but I suspect that I will need more to take the wear and tear of a glass case! This 5/16 brass angle is OK, but a bit fragile for my taste. There is a slight outward bowing which will have to be taken out by the fitted boards.  The brass angle just nudges the reverser arm, so I've machined out a small recess which appears to have done the trick. I've seen some Brits where there is a large slot, and I didn't want that.  Running board seems to be in the right place! My guillotine is only 300mm wide so the new boards will be in sections, something like the original. In fact, the original looks like it has folded sections incorporating the valance, so I might explore that possibility! JB  |
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Post by Jim on Nov 22, 2012 21:25:30 GMT
The addition of the footplate and valance, even in a temporary lash up certainly starts to beef things up. It's nice to see the progress John. As a matter of interest are you making the lubricators or getting ready made ones? I was going to do some boiler work today but it's too hot  Jim |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 21:48:43 GMT
Hi Jim On the subject of lubricators, here's one I made earlier. It's fitted and working! I've lost the thread though...... Too hot eh? It's blowing 50 knots here on the Solent! JB  |
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