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Post by Shawki Shlemon on Jan 4, 2012 6:48:01 GMT
Well done JB , your half decent camera is better than a full decent camera I have , or is it the camera man ? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2012 17:57:51 GMT
Well, it isn't quite Roy Amsbury standard, but it's a bit neater than the huge LBSC valve which would have cluttered up the cab! It's in the right place to connect up with the actuating lever, but I'm still not sure where to put the injector valve in relation to it: above or below. The feed pipe is on the left of the whistle feed. I have yet to drill the hole in the cabe face and mount the valve on the wrapper. Polite suggestions welcome! JB  |
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Post by Andrew C on Jan 7, 2012 8:49:54 GMT
Hi JB That is a really neat little valve. as to the positioning have a look at www.fraserker.com/winson/britannia_pix/Britannia%20-%20Driving%20Cab%20Right.jpgThe top valve above the hand rail is the steam heating valve it is fed from the end of the manifold the lower two are injector steam valves they are both fed from the back two unions on the manifold. The front one is hard against the boiler and feeds steam to the large exhaust steam injector on this side, the other is slightly below and away from the boiler and feeds steam for the injector on the far side of the cab. If it were me I'd think about moving the whistle valve to where the steam heating valve should be an put both injector valves in their right place. Then workout how to operate the whistle  But thats me. there are a massive amount of photos on fraserker.com/britannia/and also on JJ britanniabuilder.com specifically britanniabuilder.com/Kit18bheatingvalve.jpgand britanniabuilder.com/Kit18bbrakepipe.jpg The blanked fitting in the background was where the feed for the coal pusher was. These are some really good books. BR STANDARD BRITANNIA PACIFICS by Bradford Barton ISBN 0851531954 LOCOMOTIVES in detail No5 by David Clarke ISBN 0-7110-3177-0 the book of the BRITANNIA PACIFICS A Photographic Accompaniment Irwell Press ISBN 1-903266-49-1 and finally one I don't have yet Britannia: Birth of a Locomotive by Philip Atkins ISBN 1-871608-21-X all available via Amazon ;D All are well worth getting. You can always sell them on e-bay later  Andrew |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2012 22:09:23 GMT
Andrew
Thanks for the pointers and references, but to my shame I already have most of those books, including the one you don't have, probably the best reference work of them all!
I'm inclined to leave the whistle valve where it is, as the actuating shaft is in place to the drawing, and put the injector valve just below so that when they are painted they might just look OK from a distance! I won't worry about the heating valve or the second injector valve at this stage, although a couple of dummies wouldn't be amiss at some stage in the future.
It's not a real problem, but the issue is attempting to get it looking a little like the real thing whilst acknowledging that nature can't be scaled, and bearing in mind that it's only a little locomotive!
Thanks again.
JB
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Post by Steve Purves TBLR on Jan 8, 2012 10:47:46 GMT
To any brit builders, I shall be visiting 70013 this month so if there is any detail shots you would like let me know!
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 18:08:00 GMT
Initial placement of the valves. I'm happy with the whistle valve as it is just right for the actuator arm radius.  I'm not so happy with the injector valve. Even though it's dead easy to work from inside the cab, - you can just see the (soon to be shortened) operating handle - it really needs to be below the whistle valve 'cos it looks a bit daft poking out of the window! It'll just be a bit harder to operate that close to the clack valve. Still, it's only a little loco and the valves have got to go somewhere..... Any thoughts? JB  |
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Post by mutley on Jan 10, 2012 20:09:33 GMT
Hi JB,
The top valve sticking out through the window doesn't look very railway like. If you have access problems then the whistle valve being a 'push button' operation is surley the candidate for the confined location. Easy inector operation is the most important requirement tho.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 20:18:40 GMT
Hi Andy
Agreed: I'll move it!
JB
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Post by rodwilson on Jan 13, 2012 12:34:54 GMT
I still can't really believe you did that  Tell me it was a wind up, temporary, or some experiment........ Rod |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 12:58:25 GMT
A senior moment Rod, a senior moment....
I'm fixing it today, just as soon as I get off my new Acer PC with 4 gig and 750 gig, coupled up to my new 20 mbps connection!
JB
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 21:27:43 GMT
Fixed! The injector valve now resides in a more appropriate place. The whistle valve is mounted on a little support bracket that hides behind it. I'll drill the holes in the cab for the shafts tomorrow as well as attempting to tighten up the pipe bend over the valve. I really don't know why I did the previous arrangement.....!?>,?! JB   |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 15:02:02 GMT
No more progress for a couple of days: the Noro virus is working its way through the family, and now it's my turn to worship the porcelain idol!
JB
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Post by welshy on Jan 14, 2012 22:01:17 GMT
Hope you get better soon JB
Mike
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Post by chris vine on Jan 15, 2012 21:28:58 GMT
Hi John,
I have you have stopped speaking to God on the great white telephone!!
Chris.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 23:02:24 GMT
Hi Chris and Mike
No, I didn't speak to God, but I've stopped shouting at Ralph and Hughey!
JB
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 16:44:08 GMT
Help please.
What colour was the asbestos pipe lagging tape when the loco was outshopped? White, black or BR Green?
Thanks
JB
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Post by noggin on Jan 16, 2012 17:14:55 GMT
Im almost certain it was white, just got dirty quickly. Noggin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 17:54:28 GMT
Im almost certain it was white, just got dirty quickly. Noggin Noggin I was hoping you'd say that, because I found some 1/16" wide waxed cotton lacing cord circa 1976. I reckon it looks better than the fat string: it could even pass for asbestos tape, and I could always paint it white or green! I've got loads, if anyone wants some.....   Regarding your reply, my dad told me something similar when I was teenager, but he may have been referring to ladies with hair of a certain colour! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 19:51:36 GMT
I've decided that this is the final layout: I'm not going to get anything more realistic in this scale! Everything is still to be tightened up in position. The injector valve actuator spindle has to be fixed to the backhead and that'll be it for now. I'll top coat all the wrappers and leave them to harden, a la Chris Vine! Any votes on insulation colour? Bill Shakespeare was all poshed up for the expo so I'm tempted to do them matt white..... JB   |
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Post by Jim on Jan 20, 2012 20:24:49 GMT
I'd go with matt white John. It would look good against the BR green and proper posh to boot too as the Britannias were.
Jim
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But thats me.
