Prowe
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Post by Prowe on Jan 21, 2012 15:40:52 GMT
White would get my vote as well, I don't remember the Brits in BR service as I lived in deepest Southern territory when steam was around, but looking at the various photos in my collection of books I feel that they were at least some kind of light (albeit dirty) colour.
Phil
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Post by merlin747 on Jan 21, 2012 17:32:41 GMT
Interestingly,I left this forum because of the activity of a certain gentleman residing in the far east.I just popped back in the hope that there was no further activity.Imagine my
disappointment to see that John and his magnificent train are still getting grief. Not too worry,I will look again in some months to see if the way is clear,and then I can talk about the recovery of a beautiful A4.
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Post by chris vine on Jan 21, 2012 18:23:53 GMT
Hi Merlin,
Please visit us often, it seems to be quite safe at the moment!!!!!.........
We all enjoy seeing John's Brit' and his photograhps are tip top too.
Chris.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 20:07:21 GMT
Chris, I think it's safe enough to post this one! The gap at the top of the cab join will disappear in due course..... JB  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 23:08:29 GMT
Boiler Preparation While the primer is drying on the cab I thought I might prepare the boiler for final assembly and connections. The boilermaker 'forgot' to drill and tap the top flange, so that was today's job. The same fixture as was used for riveting the smoke box was used to secure the boiler square and level.  I made a jig which fits into the flange and guides the drill into the 12 desired places. The jig also has a recess in the top to take the cover plate for later drilling.  I used a 2nd and a plug to tap the 3mm deep holes. The device is long enough to keep things (nearly) square by eye!  Boiler clack holes tomorrow! JB |
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wiltsrob
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Post by wiltsrob on Jan 28, 2012 9:09:21 GMT
JB
Your doing a fab job on the brit..
Robert
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 17:11:57 GMT
Too many trips to aged relatives lately, but I did this today. This was a tricky job: in fact, my heart was in my mouth most of the time..... Two problems: 1. I had to drill 10 holes in my lovely boiler 2. The LBSC clacks seem to be twice the size I wanted so some downsizing was needed The necessary components. Brass flanges and bronze bodies.  The brass flanges were turned up in the 4 jaw and drilled using the rotary table. The flange pairs are super glued onto a common shaft.  The cladding was put on to determine the positions. Super glue came in handy here A 1/8 punch was made and used to find the centre hole position. A tapping drill in the dremel made pips for the securing holes.  The moment of truth! The holes were drilled Ok once I put some cutting compound on the job!  Finished job. This is 75% of spec yet it still looks enormous! Take no notice of the screws, I'll make some proper 1.6mm hex bolts for it later. JB  Driver's view.  |
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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2012 21:11:04 GMT
It's hard to find a superlative to describe your work John. From the fineness of the detail to the lovely even curves on the pipes it is all just superb.  Jim |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 22:39:50 GMT
Great work John, top stuff
Pete
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peteh
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Post by peteh on Feb 4, 2012 3:49:24 GMT
Beautiful work !
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nonort
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Post by nonort on Feb 4, 2012 10:36:01 GMT
The problem you are having with the clack boxes is compounded by the fact that on the full size engine the clack is submerged into the lagging. Why not try and make a small dummy clack then hide the real one under the running board. P's never found the need to have two clacks on injectors. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 23:14:39 GMT
Why not try and make a small dummy clack then hide the real one under the running board. . Nonort Thanks for your input. I thought about this earlier but decided to take the LBSC route and see what I landed up with. I might just fit a lower clack as it does look a bit odd! JB |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2012 19:38:36 GMT
Just for a change, I thought I'd do some work on the cab! I do hope nobody minds the repetition, but I suppose that's Brit Progress for you... Driver's brake valve components. For once, as drawn it looks about the right size and shape. I tried dummying up the drilled cover, but it was too fiddly, so I fitted the top gland with a nice knurled top piece which looks Ok from a distance at least.  Assembled and in trial position. The piece of W&D is hiding the holes where I fitted it in the wrong place. It would have fitted had I made a swing firehole door, but because I fitted a sliding one the pedestal fouled the actuating arm and had to be moved sideways! The drawing did not reflect said option, but I should have checked it.... JB  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 10:21:00 GMT
Applying a little grey matter to the problem of the pedestal location, I just twigged that I specified a wider fire box door, causing the displacement to the left!
Looking at other - driveable - examples, this doesn't seem to be too much of a problem. However, someone who knows about these things tells me that serious drivers fit an extension rod to the reverser gear and utilise a temporary handle poking out of the back of the cab. I'm not sure I'll go to that trouble though.....!
JB
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 19:24:02 GMT
Initial thoughts for the cab floor. I've never been in a real loco, but the Fraser pics have given me a flavour for it. Is the chequer plate left natural or painted? Any comments? Is it right? etc....  If anyone is interested, the wood is 1.5mm teak faced three ply with some lines scored in it for planks, further defined with a bit of good teak oil. It is fabulously expensive but I just happened to have 1/2 sq m left over from a boat project! JB  JB
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Post by chris vine on Feb 9, 2012 19:45:48 GMT
The Chequer plate was usually much more dirty than your version JB!!
Chris.
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Post by sncf141r on Feb 9, 2012 21:47:05 GMT
From my days throwing around coal scoops, or twiddling oil valves on the real thing - chequer plate was painted. The running boards, and any outside walkable surface, other than tender tops, were chequer plate.
Lots of North American cab floors were wood; lift the planks (they were not fastened, but tough to lift otherwise) and you could see the stuff below, or, in the case of CPR1201, put out the fire when the oil burner flashed back!
(no, I was not on that run, but the fireman told us later how "interesting" it was to pry these planks up and squirt the water hose on them while running at track speed!)
Another JohnS.
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steam4ian
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Post by steam4ian on Feb 10, 2012 22:50:09 GMT
G'day JB
Regarding the reverser extension I suggest you provide one otherwise you will never notch-up.
I get to drive locos with screw reversers in protypical places. Even operating them when stopped, say to reverse into a siding, is fiddly, using them with a train load of pax is out of the question. I have noticed that the owner drivers set the reverser at say 60% cut off and do not adjusted it at all.
I have driven full size under supervision and used the reverser without moving the regulator some 10ks abounding in tight curves, straights and speed restrictions, down to 5mph in two instances. The regulator was not touched once underway to the top of the top of the climb; I think my mate, who was the driver, was trying to prove something to the trainee driver who was firing.
On my own loco with an accessible pole reverser I like to notch-up once underway.
Regards
Ian
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 0:28:48 GMT
Ian
Good advice as usual. Thinking about it, it is fairly straightforward to fit an extension through the driver's backrest. I might just do it!
JB
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Post by Andrew C on Feb 11, 2012 7:28:18 GMT
JB you can alway find someone who has done it before. check out the 7 1/4 9F station road steam sold back in November. Its in the second mortgage and OMG what detail bracket, but have a look at this www.stationroadsteam.com/stock%20pages/5077/pages/5077-c-e.htm It hardle notices. Oh and by the way I love the cab floor  Andrew |
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