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Post by uuu on Sept 3, 2016 16:10:14 GMT
In other threads, interest in workshop photos, layout and size has been shown, so I thought I'd kick off with a sketch layout of mine: Door is at the bottom, widow at the top. There's a story to the gas turbine, which I may expand on tomorrow. Wilf
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Post by Lisa on Sept 4, 2016 4:43:45 GMT
Well, here's mine: The floor is currently split in two by the wood for repairing the front fence, and the only length of track dad didn't sell with everything else. Metal Cabinet on the right is a server rack, which I'm currently selling on ebay; hence it's in an awkward spot near the door, to help get it out. Unlike Wilf, I don't keep widows in the workshop.
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Post by uuu on Sept 4, 2016 14:29:32 GMT
Some photographs - scanning left to right. Benches with surface table in corner. Inverters on widow bench awaiting attention. Mill and drill. Lathe (without motor at present) and storage. Ceiling height is 4.5m at this point, so all I need to get more storage is a longer ladder. Not much floor space. Wilf
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 14:30:54 GMT
Here's mine, I have taken a number of photo's as being an odd shape makes it difficult to visualise .... First 2 are drawings, these I did when the wooden workshop was extended, basically, we knocked down the front wall (right of picture), moved it out further,around 2 foot and put in a larger window. The first drawing shows what's on top of the benches, things have changed a little since but not by much so this should give some idea of the current layout. Next is the floor layout, I have added the overall dimensions and camera angles for the photo's that I've taken to hopefully help explain the layout. Camera 1..(please excuse the mess) Camera 2. Camera 3. Camera 4. Camera 5. Camera 6. ( the concrete building outside was the old workshop, currently being used by my son for all of his tool) Well, that's what I have to play with, not very big but comfortable with plenty of light, much better since fitting the new double glazed window, both buildings are fully alarmed and we have CCTV ready to install, currently under the bench awaiting the time needed, hopefully not too long a wait.. cheers Pete
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Post by Roger on Sept 5, 2016 19:29:44 GMT
Welcome to the 'Tardis' which is my tiny workshop. There's no floor plan, but I think it's so small that it's pretty obvious where everything is. The only window is in the door, so that opens up more possibilities for storage. This shot was taken standing outside the door, the workshop is pretty narrow. That's a Jones & Shipman tool and cutter grinder with a cheap Chinese made pillar drill behind that rarely gets used but I'm loathed to get rid of. I can't really use that space for anything else, so it might as well live there. If I need decent access to it, I use the crane to move it elsewhere. 20160905_193705 by Roger Froud, on Flickr This is my strong storage shelf arrangement for all the heavy items I don't want to lift by hand. They either have eye bolts attached to them, or I slide them onto the tray shown in this shot. The inlay is to support the lathe chucks when I use it to change them. I keep all the collets and EasyChange tools on top, as well as the Turning Tool fixture that I use on the mill to turn it into a pseudo CNC lathe. 20160905_193641 by Roger Froud, on Flickr The table extension is really robust so I can pull out things like the rotary table out where it's easier to attach the crane. It slots in next to any of the shelves. The crane can reach within half a metre of any of the walls and is capable of lifting the mill if necessary! You can see the power cord going to the crane. It's several lengths of 3Amp mains coiled cable, soldered together and hung from a nylon rope by some little Delrin sliders I made. Simple but effective 20160905_193533 by Roger Froud, on Flickr I keep my smaller pieces of raw materials in the Lin Bins along with loads of Metric nuts and bolts, sorted by size. 1501 sits on the top and the crane can be used to move that onto the floor or turn it round. This drawer has every Metric drill size from 0.2mm to 12mm in increments of 0.1mm plus a few oddball Number and Letter sizes I inherited but don't have any use for. The other drawers have Metric taps, then Imperial taps (yes, I have loads of them), digital micrometers up to 100mm and Digial calipers to 150mm. There are also many engineers squares, parallels, Vee blocks and other bits and bobs. 20160905_193354 by Roger Froud, on Flickr Mills and grinders are hard to accommodate in a small space because the table can protrude far out to either side. The grinder table comes in front to the shelving unit on one side and just missed the pillar drill and storage boxes on the other. The mill table goes over the power hacksaw at one end and encroaches on the movable keyboard/mouse/display arm at the other extreme. Normally it's near the middle, the arrangement works well without wasting space. The white stripe hanging down is actually blue towel on a roll. The lights are mounted on their side so that the travelling crane can pass underneath them. 20160905_193328 by Roger Froud, on Flickr The workhead on the grinder has an eye bolt so it can be removed and put on the floor with the crane without disconnecting it. I normally park the crane in the far RH corner near the door. You're not really aware of it being there, it's tucked to tightly under the rafters that it doesn't noticeably reduce the headroom. 20160905_193319 by Roger Froud, on Flickr The shelves are narrow enough, the lathe is low enough, as is the bench, so that the 'up and over' door can be opened. I'll make an arrangement whereby 1501 can be rolled out into the back of the car through there. 20160905_193256 by Roger Froud, on Flickr The power hacksaw was made from bits salvaged from a scrap yard. The sliding parts are from a Dentist's chair. It's got a variable stroke so the widest possible work can be cut. The vice goes very close to the blade. It's in two parts so that the vice jaw can be moved. It can also be removed so that pieces can be clamped directly to the bed. 20160905_193237 by Roger Froud, on Flickr I fitted compact AC servos to the mill so it wouldn't stick out too far and also be simple to attach. It also avoided needing drive belts so it's a neat arrangement. 20160905_193217 by Roger Froud, on Flickr The TIG welder sits under the bench, as does the Hydrovane compressor which runs at reduced speed from a VFD. You can see the Argon bottle at the end. The Ultrasonic Tank sits on the end of the bench. 20160905_193207 by Roger Froud, on Flickr It's a pretty small space, but it doesn't give the impression of being cramped when you're working in there. Every machine is very flexible which means I don't need as many of them to cover all the bases. I thought I'd really miss the handles on the mill, but you get used to it in the end and realise that there's nothing you can't do from the control or handwheel that you can do with them anyway. I'm yet to be convinced that a CNC lathe conversion would be of much value, there's very little I can't do with the Mill and the Lathe Tooling plate if I need complex geometry of large numbers of something. A fourth axis on the mill would probably be of more use and I might well make one of those in time. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with the capabilities of what I've got.
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Post by joanlluch on Sept 8, 2016 12:10:23 GMT
That's not actually a "workshop" because it only has a vertical mill with DRO as a workshop equipment, but anyway it's the place where I assemble my loco. Taller by joan lluch, on Flickr The picture is a 270 degrees pane view. In fact, the white wall on the left and the black wardrobe on the right are at 90 degrees. I'm taking the picture from the corner where the entrance is. The room looks larger in the picture than actually is. This room is half underground, the window shown is just 40 cm above the outside floor.
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Post by Lisa on Feb 6, 2017 8:15:28 GMT
A bit of an update, seeing as there's been some changes (and more tools added) since the last pic'. This looks considerably less open and empty compared to the last pic' I took, but I still feel like I'm not using the space well; however it works for now at least. More heat still forecast, but hopefully I'll be able to get back into doing something come autumn.
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Post by Roger on Feb 6, 2017 9:02:04 GMT
Hi Lisa, You're so blessed for space that I think it hardly matters that you're not getting the most out of it. Is that just a metal roof without insulation I see? If so, I'm staggered that you manage to work out there at all when the Sun is shining, it must be like an oven! Can't you line it with Celotex or similar to make it more bearable?
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Post by steamcoal on Feb 6, 2017 9:47:50 GMT
Not only is it interesting to see the model engineering but also other bits of model paraphenalia. Think I spied a glider tail, treadmill and someone mentioned a jet engine? Not a RB211 I hope?
In mine you will see boats, planes and trains. A model emporhium, even a few bottles of Whiskey there were once.(now upstaris!)
For some of you more senior model engineers, and respectfully I do mean senior, if you have read the M.E dating back to the mid 1940's you may recall a contributor from New Zealand by the name of J.O.S Miller. Well this person and his son, also J.(Jock) Miller probably have one of the most amazing workshops that any engineer could ever hope to see. This person J.O.S Miller once lived behind my house in Timaru, New Zealand and built, not bought, many dozens of model engineering machines, lathes, grinders, horizontal mills and other incomprehendably complicated instruments. Yes there were locos and model engineering projects but the tooling was something else and for me as 40yo something I had the fortune to be shown the collection and it just blew me away. There is more than 100 years of model engineering experteese in the basement between them and Jock Miller is still writing for the model Engineering Workshop to this day.
If I can get to see it again I will make some photos, its unbelievable, ask Bob Bransome, Jocks good friend who is bound to have seen it.
You just do not know what lurking in the basement of some homes all around the world.
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Post by Lisa on Feb 6, 2017 10:16:21 GMT
It is indeed an uninsulated metal roof, there is wind powered extraction vents on the roof though. Plus plenty of doors and windows for getting a breeze to blow through, and it's largely shaded by both the house roof overhang, and several trees. It could be lined with something, but just hasn't been for various reasons over the years.
Generally it isn't any hotter inside than out though, the main issue being that it's just hot everywhere.
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Post by Jim on Feb 7, 2017 5:57:15 GMT
This is my retreat from the world. It started as a home for my O gauge layout then morphed into a workshop when I decided to build the Burrell for which I needed the Hafco lathe which does all I ask of it and was very affordable at the time I got it. The Tube Map was purchased from the Recycle Yard at the tip for $5.00! Someone must have had fun bringing it back to Oz. It brings back lots of memories of our visits. The other end with some memorabilia including a NSWGR luggage rack and a Traction Engine Lamp The Hafco work horse. You hear from time to time disparaging comments about machinery from the far east but I have no complaints. The head stock accepts up to 2"dia. bar and I can swing 20" in the gap and does all I ask of it then some. I have a Hafco Drill/Mill with the long table in the garage and it too does a great job. I cut all the gears including the bevel gears for the Burrell on it without any problems apart from my ears ringing for a week after with a constant 'ka ting, ka ting, ka ting.' On day I'll get back to my Midland Railway layout, it's based on Nailsworth in Gloucestershire. Jim
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Post by steamcoal on Feb 7, 2017 8:26:39 GMT
Jim.
My Persian rug is bigger than yours ! Home comforts.
Just about the ears thing, I now wear ear protectors for any sawing, milling and even bandsawing wood. I fire guns during the day and have machines going and just want to look after my lugs.
Once its gone its not coming back, hearing that is.
My dad ran our business by himself , one ear on the machine and the other listening for the phone and now he is wearing fancy hearing aids.I don't want to be like that if I can help it.
You like music like I do.
Nice shop.
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Post by ilvaporista on Feb 7, 2017 9:43:24 GMT
So here are a couple of the cave. It is below street level and is what should be the garage, it was decribed as a 3 car garage but you need small cars and good parking skills to fit them in. It quickly became a two car and motorbike garage and then one car and bike and is now a one car garage... It is an L shape with the car entrance at the top of the L, so to fit in three cars you had to swing one round and it could only be FIAT 500 size or smaller, The two main cars should be end to end but a big SUV and a Renault Megane just would not fit (About 3" missing to which I even thought about cutting a 'power bulge' in the door). Next car was a Citroen C3 but by then the space had been taken by workshop tools so that stays outside...
So the first shot is the machine shop in the toe of the L which is about 4m x 4m
Crammed in to shot here are a home made 10t press with tool storage in the cabinet below, just visible bottom left is a small Drummond shaper, the main item in shot is the Astra Geared Head Mill, behind that is a 5" Atlas Lathe and just poking it's nose in under the mill spindle is a very old George Taylor vertical mill. In the background is the Colchester. To the right of the Colchester, just out of shot, is a grinding station with a TOS tool and cutter grinder and a bench grinder. Behind me is the long bench and vice with one end taken up with a pillar drill and bench shears.
The feed on the mill is a Lucas 12V wiper motor which can be inserted by moving it in the slotted angle (in my defence I was getting bored with facing a large piece of cast iron and needed a quick automatic fine feed, that was knocked up in about 1 hour and has been the same since....) It works a treat and when you look at the work that it produces you would never know that it was done by such a bodge, Feed rate and direction is courtesy of a model train controller, one day I will get round to a proper solution but as the current system works I spend my limited time doing other projects The second picture is behind the green plasterboard wall of the Colchester (this area should have been where the second car was to be parked). There is a mezzanine floor above for storing materials and projects (currently home to a a go kart, bike engines, front end of a Boeing 737 etc...). From left to right are the red storage cabinet for my car tools, beyond that under the blanket is the 7 1/4" Tich with the stainless boiler, under that is the 5" Hunslet chassis, the main item in the centre was my birthday present last year which is an Italian Deckel FP1 clone (DiPalo), it came with slotting head, indexer and overarm for horizontal milling. I picked up an inverter at the Ally Pally show and this should hopefully be running soon. Behind the mill is a projects bench which was set at a height to go over the bonnet of the second car. On this from left to right are a linisher, Unimat 3 and various projects (a trestle for a G scale viaduct etc..) Under the bench behind the mill is a vertical/horizontal band saw for metal and on the right is a 12" bandsaw for wood.
Behind me along one side of the L is a line of wood working machines all on castors which can be pulled out when neeed, these are table saw, homemade router table, planer and chop saw. On the short side of the L is a large cabinet for general storage and the welding station, foundry and garden tools. As the ceiling is over 12ft high there are racks all the way from floor to ceiling and various items are stored hung from there (ladders, bicycles etc)
It seems a lot of kit but that is 30 years worth and nothing (until the mill) was expensive, all I need is the time and health to use it all...
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Post by jem on Feb 7, 2017 18:35:22 GMT
I would like to upload pictures of my workshop, but flickr says uploadr has expired, can anyone help me with this please
best wishes
Jem
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Post by Roger on Feb 7, 2017 21:48:05 GMT
I would like to upload pictures of my workshop, but flickr says uploadr has expired, can anyone help me with this please best wishes Jem Hi Jem, I googled it and it seems that uploadr is now a paid feature. I don't know that that feature looked like, I always uploaded to Flickr by going to the Flickr web site and using the upload feature from there. That still seems to work, so I guess that's the only way to do it rather than automatically. This is the page that I get to to upload my pictures. I hope that helps.
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Post by ilvaporista on Feb 8, 2017 8:13:12 GMT
Everyones got tidy workshops!😂 You can only see about 12sq inches in my machine shop and that's the only one not covered in swarf and stuff, but still the 4 jaw and a faceplate are resting on the floor.. Now they have a proper home. As the mill was delivered on a pallet that area had just been swept, now the mill has moved aginst the wall and that area is filled with logs for the wood stove. Sometimes even the main car space gets used, just visible are the two French windows that I saved from when we had new ones fitted, thinking I could reuse them in another place, once I had taken a frame all the way to the new location I found out they were 20cm too tall so now they sit in the garage and my wife nags at me to move them. The Fowler is a retirement project safely hidden amongst the other stuff. Not to mention a 5" Torquay Manor and enough projects to keep me going until many years past a last possible date with a wooden overcoat.(sorry about the poor quality picture, from a phone camera and then reposted)
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Post by jem on Feb 9, 2017 18:05:16 GMT
DSCF3307 by jeremy joel, on Flickr This is the first picture that I have posted of my workshop, so if this works, then I can bore you with some more. the photo shows my Warco Lathe GH1236 on the LHS and my Warco geared head drilling Milling machine. beyond is a small workbench tools etc. I hope that this comes out OK best wishes Jem
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Post by Rex Hanman on Feb 9, 2017 19:30:24 GMT
Your workshop appears to be similar in size to mine. I thought I had squeezed a lot in (I recently re discovered the bench top!) but you have turned making use of space into a work of art! well done! I now realize I have room for twice a much stuff!
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Post by durhambuilder on Feb 9, 2017 19:53:56 GMT
Mine looks better from the outside, internally it's about 18ft x 7ft. Since the photos were taken the large horizontal mill has been replaced by a Tom Senior and the Boxford has been replaced with a Colchester Chipmaster. Henry still diligently sucks up more than his own body weight in swarf every week even after 7 or 8 years.
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Post by Jim on Feb 10, 2017 5:55:14 GMT
The whole of Oz is baking away at present as aheat wave blankets the continent. The workshop thermometer is reading 42C or 107F in the old money so nothing being done there. I imagine Lisa up in Ipswich is finding it a trifle warmish in her workshop too. There is good news as always.....the soothing ales are in the fridge and icy cold....we may yet survive. Jim in a lather.
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