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Post by Doug on Aug 12, 2014 7:35:45 GMT
OOH slight correction to my earlier post i am building a Battle of britain class, Light pacific. NOT a merchant navy class, just for a added bit of excusivity
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Post by ejparrott on Aug 12, 2014 7:50:25 GMT
Rebuilt or a spam can?
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Post by Doug on Aug 12, 2014 9:02:25 GMT
oh rebuild for sure!!! dont want to offend the eye hopefully a copy of Sir Kieth Park i have had a quick look and the diferences are mainly on the back end i have to loose an inch off the overall lenght of the model most of it seems to be on the trailing truck as on full size the wheel centers are 1' shorter from the back wheel to the trailing truck wheel going to get some detail on it later but the front end looks to be the same which is a relif as redoing the valve gear is way out of my comfort zone!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 10:01:38 GMT
Is Kieth Park a Bullied?
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Post by Doug on Aug 12, 2014 12:38:10 GMT
Yes its a rebuilt Battle of Britain Class Light Pacific it's very much like the silghtly bigger Merchant Navy Class infact you would have to know your stuff to tell the differance. i saw a photo today of it pre-rebuilt (spam can) it was unveild with the man himself and non other than Douglas Barder in 1947
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 13:43:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 18:08:29 GMT
Oh I'm aware of the differences, was just having some fun, beleive it or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 18:38:03 GMT
"Air smoothed Casing" I believe was the term used ?? -----------------------
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Post by Doug on Aug 12, 2014 21:22:17 GMT
Oh I'm aware of the differences, was just having some fun, beleive it or not. I honestly had no idea but then that's the point really to learn new stuff as you go I have learnt about most of the differences most of which are very small. But I am going to have to re draft a lot of the drawings to get it right.
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Post by Doug on Aug 12, 2014 21:26:54 GMT
"Air smoothed Casing" I believe was the term used ?? ----------------------- Proper nasty looking is the term I would use lol why make a beautiful loco like that and cover it in tin plate it's just wrong! It's like putting Kylie in a Yashmak, it's nasty!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 21:56:16 GMT
"It's like putting Kylie in a Yashmak, it's nasty!" ---------------- It took me a while but I managed to finally track her down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Post by Doug on Aug 12, 2014 21:59:45 GMT
"It's like putting Kylie in a Yashmak, it's nasty!" ---------------- It took me a while but I managed to finally track her down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hot stuff
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 22:22:10 GMT
just to put the cat amongst the pigeons I prefer the stream lined (spam cam)bullied pacific to the rebuilt version...probably because that's how I first saw them in model form in my late grandfathers collection (I have one in my own collection on my living room wall) and probably also due to me favouring the big four era or pre grouping to BR as the loco's were at their best then in beautiful clean liveries run with great pride no matter which company they belonged too. Sometimes I wish that I had been born early twentieth century to be able to experience life under steam during the twenties and thirties.
Pete
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Post by jma1009 on Aug 12, 2014 22:32:11 GMT
i always wondered why i was interested in steam locos (being too young to remember them other than when preserved) but subsequently was told by my parents that when aged 6 months i was held up on New Milton bridge to watch the last of the Bulleid Pacifics thundering past on the Bournemouth expresses - to be enveloped in steam and smoke as the train went underneath the bridge! a rather unorthodox baptism! this would have been july 1967! cheers, julian
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 5:46:11 GMT
I passed part 3 of my driving test on 21C123, a fantastic machine, part of the test was to drive and fire it on my own for a trip to Kingscote and back (fireman had "become ill") amazing day, I'll always have a soft spot for it.
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Post by sncf141r on Aug 13, 2014 12:00:09 GMT
i always wondered why i was interested in steam locos (being too young to remember them other than when preserved) but subsequently was told by my parents that when aged 6 months i was held up on New Milton bridge to watch the last of the Bulleid Pacifics thundering past on the Bournemouth expresses - to be enveloped in steam and smoke as the train went underneath the bridge! a rather unorthodox baptism! this would have been july 1967! cheers, julian Interesting - I was born after steam disappeared here in Canada, but do remember a tiny bit from being a small child visiting Scotland, Voss, Norway, and Trier Germany. Maybe that's why most of my locomotive fleet is not north-american? (I remember going over a bridge somewhere in Glasgow (Milingavie) and there was a steam depot below, with a steam atmosphere; in Voss, a black locomotive with 3 large wheels silently switching (where's the noise??) by the station, and in Trier - seeing my first really active steam across the river. I also remember seeing the odd steam locomotive in freight sidings when riding the passenger trains) With us being of the post-steam generation but building steam locomotives, there's hope for the hobby yet! JohnS.
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Post by donashton on Aug 13, 2014 14:51:00 GMT
What a fascinating thread (with sidelines). Feeling a bit aged now, as I saw the BR Standards under construction. Didn't get to grips with those wonderful Bullieds until the early 1960s. In order to retain the outside admission cylinders on the two outsides a new valve gear had to be designed and my simulator shows it to be the best arrangement I have ever come across. Pity the squashed up inside gear wasn't up to a match. Incidentally for the sassenachs (dear me - is that right?), regarding Milngavie this is pronounced 'Mullguy'. Bit like 'Strayvn' (Strathaven),only worse. Anyway, my thanks for such an interesting thread. Don.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 16:42:26 GMT
Family outings from Reading (General)to London at Christmas time to see "The lights"....Blood & Custard Ex-GWR Railcar near Southall-------Arriving behind a 61XX at Paddington with only steam locos in sight.... Complete AEC bus chassis (less bodies) being driven along the A4 when on my way to school----------- smuts in my eyes because you COULD lean out of a drop-light window !!-------my first sight/sound of "Kerosene Castle" rushing alongside the Kennet& Avon Canal when I was fishing !!-------- squealing flanges at Kings Cross ( the railway kind, chaps !!).......Coffee Pots at Reading (South)------ open days at Southampton ( USA 0-6-0 tank ) and in Eastleigh Works was GT3 in full livery.........
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Post by Doug on Aug 13, 2014 20:09:51 GMT
Oh love it I started out trying to build one of the best looking loco's and all the photo's posted end up as the ugliest collection of loco's I have ever seen i am having quite a lot of fun being pedantic with the drawings, the frames have lost a good inch and a bit and I have learned that 5" loco's are 1:11.3 ratio in scale then split by half for the 2.5" guage, I know what you are thinking but I am adjusting 5" drawings hence the long way round. The frames seem to have an awful lot of holes and I am not sure if I should reduce the quantity or just go with what's in the 5" scale, I don't want it too simple so I may stick with it. Got a lot of drawing to do then a 3D model to build to check it all works before I get going and at this pace it will take nearly a year to do. Happy days or nights ahead.
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Post by gingerneer on Aug 14, 2014 11:45:55 GMT
Rebuilt or un-rebuilt its the oval smoke box door and boxpox wheels, they are different and appealing to me. My dad grew up with the last of steam on the Southern around London, but i grew up in the 80's around Shrewsbury station which had BR blue 47's and 37's. An image which has stay with me is that on the front cover of the Great African steam trek, triple headed Garratt's on a coal train. $_20 by tapdieuk, on Flickr
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