monkeyhero97
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Got a 7 1/4" Stafford and 2 1/2" WD 2-10-0, building Ayesha and thinking about Q1.
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Post by monkeyhero97 on Sept 21, 2014 20:04:29 GMT
I would love to build a stuart. Naturally I would prefer to a toby but time constraints and the fact that with the S50 everything is sevred on a silver platter with the kit make it very appealing. I love the look of the toby and I think I would love to have a go at a 5" one in the future. But for know I need to concentrate getting to know my mill and lathe, buying the tools I need and buildoing a S50 as practical experince. Luckiyl my birthday is coming up so hopefully I will have the finances/ oppurtunity to have a S50 unmachines kit and those tools. This is my list so far, if any of you have sites you recommend or tools sets you think are good for then please add to it! Remember that I have absolutely no m.e tools whatsoever... I dont even have files yet!
Marc
M.E Tool List Accessories for Mill: End mills Parallels Milling Vises Layout Dye Surface Gage Dial Caliper
Accessories for Lathe Drill Set Faceplate Tailstock Chuck Transfer Punch Set Tools
General Hacksaw Mesuring Set Marking Set Drill Set Steam Oil General Oil File Set
Marc
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monkeyhero97
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Post by monkeyhero97 on Sept 21, 2014 20:07:07 GMT
oohhh. and I must add a blower to that list!
If there is a site which would have everything ( apart from the s50, hopefully that we be a present) please let me know. Since I live abroad I want to try and get everything from one order... otherwise shipping sill sting me Marc
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Post by Roger on Sept 21, 2014 20:28:04 GMT
And don't forget to add a DTI for the lathe, preferably one with 2 micron resolution and a fine adjuster on the arm.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 20:58:29 GMT
And don't forget to add a DTI for the lathe, preferably one with 2 micron resolution and a fine adjuster on the arm. ----------------- I've just won a bet !!
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jma1009
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 21, 2014 21:06:53 GMT
or a bit of chalk and some rizla papers? (do i win the secondary bet?!)
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jma1009
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 21, 2014 23:33:50 GMT
hi marc, i wouldnt bother with a Stuart stationary engine. i was given a Stuart 10H set and it has been in a display cabinet for 30 years, and the time spent making and finishing it was a complete waste of time! on the other hand clocks ive repaired and made adorn the house and do something useful! (i do have a slight hankering for a really complicated stationary engine to run on air constantly as a conversation piece, same as i have a hankering for a steam(/air) whistle operated doorbell! but as there are 4 locos in the dining room and another 2 upstairs perhaps i have enough steam stuff already in the house!!) my first workshop when 16 was in my bedroom on an old kitchen table. cheers, julian
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monkeyhero97
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Post by monkeyhero97 on Sept 22, 2014 4:32:41 GMT
I would defintely prefer to be building a toby, but with time constraints I find it much better to build a S50. The main problem with building the toby is I would get stuck on the boiler again... for I would not be willing to buy a torch, fire block.... basically more equipment and more expenses. The S50 is good oppurtunity for a present from a faimly member and although the end product is not that interesting, I could use it in the future to experiment generating electricity with different types of energy. Marc
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Post by ejparrott on Sept 22, 2014 8:09:40 GMT
The S50 is a much better engine than the 10H, in my opinion.
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Post by Doug on Sept 22, 2014 11:38:30 GMT
I built an S50 for my first project and i found it great for learning how to use the lathe and miller and make a working model the other really good thing with a stuart model is if you mess it up you can buy spare castings.
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monkeyhero97
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Post by monkeyhero97 on Sept 22, 2014 16:57:54 GMT
Regarding the tools again.... which is the best website to get everything from? Marc
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Dave H
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Post by Dave H on Sept 22, 2014 17:55:38 GMT
Well I have had no problem with these people, but there are so many out there that it is most certainly worth trolling the Web to compare descriptions/pricing. www.proopsbrothers.com/
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PH
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Post by PH on Sept 22, 2014 18:08:28 GMT
La Confrérie des Amateurs de Vapeur sells kits for a stationary engine. Look on their site in the "Vap-Shop" section www.cav-escarbille.com/vap_shop.htmI think I could find the build instructions from l'Escarbille
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 18:08:51 GMT
Hi Marc.. I wouldn't say that any one supplier will cater for all of your needs.. best to shop around and get the best deals..... I use many but for starting out you could try www.chronos.ltd.uk/ and www.rdgtools.co.uk/ , these are good for well priced tools. Pete
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Dave H
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Post by Dave H on Sept 22, 2014 18:33:37 GMT
Good recommendations Pete, if you bought the Machinery from Amadeal Mark, look at their site as well.
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monkeyhero97
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Post by monkeyhero97 on Sept 22, 2014 20:09:46 GMT
After browsing for a couple of hours, rdgtools is my best best. Thanks PH for the suggestion, but the stuart turner is a lot cheaper, and in my opinion better to look at. However, they do sell steam oil, which I might buy. Marc
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Post by Roger on Sept 22, 2014 20:44:18 GMT
You won't be disappointed with RDG tools, I've found them to be both cheap and pretty good quality overall. You'll also get a discount voucher if you forget to buy something.
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monkeyhero97
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Got a 7 1/4" Stafford and 2 1/2" WD 2-10-0, building Ayesha and thinking about Q1.
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Post by monkeyhero97 on Sept 26, 2014 19:55:15 GMT
So, just got news, I should have my engine ready to run by friday or saturday next week, I have managed to fin enough supplies for a test run in the garage. Although I do have a small amount of steam coal, could I supplement it with a bit of household coal? When I go to the track ofc I'll be using normal steam coal, but just If I run out of steam coal for the test. Marc
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 20:05:50 GMT
You won't be disappointed with RDG tools, I've found them to be both cheap and pretty good quality overall. You'll also get a discount voucher if you forget to buy something. ------------------------ and they'll be at the show !!
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smallbrother
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Post by smallbrother on Sept 26, 2014 21:05:03 GMT
So, just got news, I should have my engine ready to run by friday or saturday next week, I have managed to fin enough supplies for a test run in the garage. Although I do have a small amount of steam coal, could I supplement it with a bit of household coal? When I go to the track ofc I'll be using normal steam coal, but just If I run out of steam coal for the test. Marc Marc, Coal is coal. It all burns. Steam coal is just a name for a certain variety of coal that exists between more plentiful cheap coal, generally called housecoal, and the top brand stuff which is anthracite. It just so happens that there was a requirement for a good product for all the steam engines in operation 100 years ago and the stuff we call steamcoal was suitable for these machines and came at a sensible price. Housecoal will burn on an open grate in your living room, anthracite will not because it needs more draught. The grade that we know as steamcoal is a sort of halfway house. Steam engines create a lot of draught and so anthracite will burn well. Depending on what the customers were seeking, sometimes the same coal would be called anthracite one week and steamcoal the next. Housecoal will be from the lower end of the quality scale but will probably be ok for your test run. Choose the pieces that are 1-2cms in size. Mix it with your better stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 21:24:48 GMT
Anthracite peas or beans is usually OK for 3.5" or 5"gauge locos
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