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Post by GWR 101 on Oct 19, 2014 0:48:04 GMT
Hi had a great time today managed to get a few things and also found some 2 and 2.5mm stainless hex headed screws for the inner dome !. Met Ed and yes his build is impressive (I never doubted it would be) and even bigger in the flesh. Also saw the gas turbine loco running, looks good but I prefer the sound of a steam loco, still every one to their own. Regards Paul
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Post by Rob on Oct 19, 2014 0:49:38 GMT
I was very disappointed with the 10 1/4" one too. I spotted it as I came in the door, and when I made it round to have a look it wasn't very accurate. As you say, more like a freelance that someone slapped 4472 on. Flat running boards, wrong shape to the dome, vertical sides to the firebox and the cab wasn't the right shape - in addition to what Pete pointed out in his post.
It looked like a well made model, but it certainly wasn't 4472!
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Post by ilvaporista on Oct 19, 2014 6:37:26 GMT
Went on Friday and spent a fortune... The coal guy thought we were mad taking coal back to Italy. Nice to see old friends and make some new. I lost count of the number of people that watched the video of my friend's railway in Italy on his tablet. Drove back yesterday with a Tinkerbell in the back and with serious thoughts of another two locos. Friday seemed pretty busy which was good to see, maybe there is hope for the hobby, but as ever silver and white hair seemed to rule the day. Apologies if I did not make myself known to all, there was just so much to see and so little time. The car park was fine and our big blue van going the wrong way out probably caused a surprise, good job we had foreign plates and got away with it..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 16:03:17 GMT
A van driven from Turin, just to see the show !! ( makes 25 miles look tame by comparison )------- Alas yes, a sea of grey/white hair ----- and that is going to be the "Norm" more and more as time goes on................
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 16:36:26 GMT
A van driven from Turin, just to see the show !! ( makes 25 miles look tame by comparison )------- Alas yes, a sea of grey/white hair ----- and that is going to be the "Norm" more and more as time goes on................ I felt very young in such company myself...much better than going to a car show with my boy's when I'm definitely one of the oldies...I feel I can do a good few years before I can claim to join the silver/grey brigade...unless I go grey overnight of course.... Pete
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Post by Jason on Oct 19, 2014 16:52:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 17:00:25 GMT
Nice one , Jason--------- that's captured the feeling of the event quite well...............There was just one, tiny, leeetle point though...At the beginning, that outdoor Burger van ........ there's NO QUEUE !! LoL !!...........Incidentally I've just returned today from the Classic Motorcycle Show at Stafford where one of the outside Burger vans was charging £4.25 a Burger and £2 a cup of Tea....
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Post by ettingtonliam on Oct 19, 2014 17:22:11 GMT
My only quibble was that the lady at the ticket desk gave me a pensioners ticket without me having to ask! I'm only 64, sulk, sulk.
Anyway Alan, you haven't mentioned your big purchase, but I've seen the photos and John (Baggo) told me all about it! When is it arriving?
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Post by shooter on Oct 19, 2014 18:04:17 GMT
Hi all,
I enjoyed the show again this year and meeting John (baggo) on the 2 1/2" stand on Saturday. Felt it was smaller this year but with chronos reeves and arc missing a big chunk was not there. Thanks John for posting the pictures of the hagley parting with his cash. I was sorry to miss the event. I, too, spent some money with Warco but a drop in the ocean compared with the great man!!
Nice video Jason, brings it all to life again.
Cheers for now. Steve.
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Post by smallbrother on Oct 19, 2014 18:18:15 GMT
I think we should be happy that there are so many old-timers still going.
My GWR signalman Grandfather died in his early 70s of heart problems a few years before I was born. These days a quick op would no doubt have preserved him to meet me.
Does it matter about age? I collected my wife from her 45 mile bike event today and the sight of so many middle aged blokes squeezed into lycra did nothing for my lunch staying in the belly.
Pete.
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Post by Roger on Oct 19, 2014 18:44:41 GMT
Age is irrelevant in my opinion, but part of the reason there aren't many youngsters is that they are unaware of what's possible. Schools don't give young people any hands on experience of shaping hard materials. I'm sure they make them aware of CAD and rapid prototyping but very few will actually be aware that metals can be worked in a modest home workshop. I get the impression that most young people think that metals are the preserve of industry and are outside the scope of anything they may want to create.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 19:41:37 GMT
Quote}---- "My only quibble was that the lady at the ticket desk gave me a pensioners ticket without me having to ask! I'm only 64, sulk, sulk".........Blimey matey, I shouldn't worry about that....I had my 65th Birthday this August but for the last few years ( The ones where the Siver started to show )--- I've been saying at the various ticket desks that "My 65th is very soon now----could I be cheeky and have a Senior Ticket anyway ?"------------It may be only £1 but that pays for the tea !!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Age and quality of life ?}-----It's a well documented fact that more of us adults are eating healthier, living longer and leading more (by comparison) active lives ---Lycra or not --God! what a sight that must be ??...BUT-----------The State Pension System itself projects it won't be able to meet it's responsibilities in the not too distant future....ALAS our children ie}-- teenagers, and their children are as a group, bucking the trend with Child Obesity, smoking etc coupled to an almost non-exercise type of lifestyle, sowing the seeds for a possible "American-style" health crisis before 2050 !!--------------As an "Apprentice Master" within the Army Civillian Engineering here at Telford, I and my colleagues would encounter 2nd year Apprentices---fresh out of the Training Centre---who couldn't read a Micrometer for example..................................................Trade stands at any of the Exhibitions ??-----------Clearly this writing has been "On the wall" for some time now and it's purely a question of costs against return of effort for the trader.......So here's just one idea to consider}----Calling all Exhibition Hall Owners & Event Organisers}---- Lets encourage these "Lost traders" back with a "Minimal-Cost" stand that is in effect a collection point only.. Traders will make it clear that Customers must order in advance and collect from this new, physically smaller stand.....These pre-ordered items can be kept in the Traders van and brought in "Just in time"... let's say the Customer designates an AM collection ( 10 am to 12.00 ) or PM collection ( 14.00 to 16.00 )------------ Calling all missing Traders}---- we the your customers actually MISS YOU and still want to do BUSINESS with you at the show ( yes, even me !!)..so please give some consideration to the "Buddy-up" idea where two traders with no conflict of interests agree to co-habit one of the existing stalls on a 50/50 basis.............. What we don't want to see is the "Death by 1000 cuts" scenario, do we ??
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Post by jordanleeds on Oct 19, 2014 19:53:56 GMT
Something to do with the cost of actually having a stand, i enquired about taking a high profile charity to the show to display what we have been up to ( Somehting of interest to most engineers) and the £1500 ish fee to attend put us off entertaining attending both the midlands and Ally pally
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 20:16:08 GMT
It was a good show but I was glad when 4 o'clock came this afternoon. 4 days on the stand with a 60 mile drive each way was very tiring. Breakdown went quicker than I expected and we were on our way home by 17.15pm. Of course it decided to chuck it down with rain just as we were loading stuff in the car!
It was nice to put some more faces to forum names and it's funny how people always turn out to be totally different to how you imagine them to be!
I noticed a lot more families with kids today whereas the previous days had been mostly blokes.
John
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 21:13:39 GMT
Yes, I'm more H & GL than most give me credit for.....................................any takers on that one then, hmm ??...
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Post by ettingtonliam on Oct 19, 2014 21:17:34 GMT
Quote}---- "My only quibble was that the lady at the ticket desk gave me a pensioners ticket without me having to ask! I'm only 64, sulk, sulk".........Blimey matey, I shouldn't worry about that....I had my 65th Birthday this August but for the last few years ( The ones where the Siver started to show )--- I've been saying at the various ticket desks that "My 65th is very soon now----could I be cheeky and have a Senior Ticket anyway ?"------------It may be only £1 but that pays for the tea !!------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indeed, I've no problem with being 64, last year I did ask for a Senior ticket, and was turned down because they only give them to over 65s. This year they think I am over 65 without me asking! Still, as you say, thats £1 more in my pocket.
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Post by Rob on Oct 19, 2014 21:55:57 GMT
Ah! So you're LMS4767! I've been a subscriber to your channel for a while now
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Post by smallbrother on Oct 20, 2014 8:20:43 GMT
Age is irrelevant in my opinion, but part of the reason there aren't many youngsters is that they are unaware of what's possible. Schools don't give young people any hands on experience of shaping hard materials. I'm sure they make them aware of CAD and rapid prototyping but very few will actually be aware that metals can be worked in a modest home workshop. I get the impression that most young people think that metals are the preserve of industry and are outside the scope of anything they may want to create. A few weeks ago we went to the open evening of the new comprehensive school in Aberdare with our lad who will be starting next year. We couldn't tour the building as it is unfinished but, we spoke to the DT people and were pleasantly surprised. The teacher who does the "metals" part showed us some moulds that they use for casting small bronze figures. He assured me they will be using lathes and milling machines too. The headteacher actually spoke about the shortage of engineers in the UK. Positive signs so keeping fingers crossed! Pete.
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Post by Roger on Oct 20, 2014 8:29:09 GMT
Age is irrelevant in my opinion, but part of the reason there aren't many youngsters is that they are unaware of what's possible. Schools don't give young people any hands on experience of shaping hard materials. I'm sure they make them aware of CAD and rapid prototyping but very few will actually be aware that metals can be worked in a modest home workshop. I get the impression that most young people think that metals are the preserve of industry and are outside the scope of anything they may want to create. A few weeks ago we went to the open evening of the new comprehensive school in Aberdare with our lad who will be starting next year. We couldn't tour the building as it is unfinished but, we spoke to the DT people and were pleasantly surprised. The teacher who does the "metals" part showed us some moulds that they use for casting small bronze figures. He assured me they will be using lathes and milling machines too. The headteacher actually spoke about the shortage of engineers in the UK. Positive signs so keeping fingers crossed! Pete. Hi Pete, That sounds most encouraging, and it's a complete reversal from the stripping out of the metalwork classes that happened soon after I left school. Let's hope this is indicative of what's going on elsewhere. I think Maggie Thatcher was happy to let all of that go, thinking that we didn't need manufacturing in a modern economy. The damage has been done now and we've lost a generation of Engineers. Maybe we can catch up again, but it's a bit late.
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Post by ejparrott on Oct 20, 2014 8:30:52 GMT
EKP weren't there either...bloody nuisance Spoke to Rotagrip, they paid £1200 for their stand, and they say they've missed 3 years, and they're not doing it again, just not worth it. Think Malcolm said he was well down on previous too.
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