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Post by Shawki Shlemon on Aug 10, 2014 9:36:41 GMT
GWR engines like KING , Manor and many more and Stirling Single have dome-less boilers and the steam is collected from holes on top of the tube for the regulator , NO problems at all .
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Aug 10, 2014 21:44:40 GMT
Hi Jim,I wouldn't be happy with Perrier's idea of his tube as his steam collecting device. After a couple of years running you will see the salts in the water forming in copper tubes,then how long would it take 1/16" holes to fill up and stop the job ?. Put another log on the fire Jim and keep warm as the sun passes the equator next month.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by jma1009 on Aug 10, 2014 21:56:34 GMT
hi geoff,
i think that the scouring effect of the steam will stop the holes blocking up, and in any event if above the water line no deposits should occur as boiled water in the form of steam is 100% pure even if the remaining boiling water isnt!
how are you getting on with your lovely V2?
cheers,
julian
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 0:20:00 GMT
Yes, as Julian says the steam itself will not contain any salts as they are left behind dissolved within the feedwater, so you'll have no problems on that score..........
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Post by Jim on Aug 11, 2014 2:00:03 GMT
Oh no! salts and scouring remind me of Epsom.  I agree Julian, Geoff has been very quiet for too long and like you, I'd love to see the V2 and Clan back on the site. So come on Geoff put the glass South Australian bottled beetroot water aside, the V2 and Clan await you. Work on Boadicea's boiler is progressing albeit slowly as time had to be taken off to admire our daughter's newly arrived twin girls. My suggestion that one be called Beatrice after the beautiful MR 4-4-0 1757 of the same name was not well received and I was banished. So with nowhere place to go but the workshop  I've been having 'fun' plugging the gaps at the corners of the foundation ring with offcuts of copper. This is the first one done. Jim  |
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Post by Tony K on Aug 11, 2014 7:44:11 GMT
Work on Boadicea's boiler is progressing albeit slowly as time had to be taken off to admire our daughter's newly arrived twin girls. My suggestion that one be called Beatrice after the beautiful MR 4-4-0 1757 of the same name was not well received and I was banished. So with nowhere place to go but the workshop Jim Congratulations Jim. Assume they look just like Grandad. Presume you will be able to find room for a double pram in the corner of the workshop. I suppose there is no chance of calling them Boadicea and Boudica then! Why not try for something more traditional in model engineering like Bridget, Jessie, Molly, Doris, Virginia or even Pansy? Thanks for all the pictures and updates - very brave. They are a pleasure to watch. |
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Aug 11, 2014 21:15:00 GMT
Hi Jim & Julian, I must set the record straight as it's a V3 not a V2 that i'm building but equally as complex. Now i can't do any of the Clan at the moment until i get the V3 finished. Isn't it annoying when a piece of your loco i found tonight whereas i had to remake it last week. But getting back to the regulator saga, I remember a long time ago on Proboards someone suggested using 4 mm rod for the regulator rod as they said that the 1/8" rod flexed a little when used. Now draw your chair a bit closer to the fire Jim and keep warm, see how i look after you.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by Jim on Aug 11, 2014 21:54:21 GMT
The great thing about this site is the caring concern members have for the welfare of others. For example there's Tony suggesting a lovely selection locomotive names for the daughter's twins. Of course I'd be sent to Coventry or worse the moment the ladies discovered the twins were named after goods engines or worse industrial shunters. I'm already in strife for suggesting Elsie have a black texta E on her forehead and Megan an M for ease of identification, it's good workshop practice. Sensible as it is the idea was not well received. Then there's my good friend Geoff concerned that I'm not close enough to the fire to be warm and knowing that last time I did that I fell asleep and tipped a half drunk glass of South Oz red into my lap. For those who don't know red wine is icey cold and makes a very embarrassing stain in light coloured trousers.  Despite all this I'm slowly making progress, with the other side of the foundation ring now in place. Life has its ups and downs but at present it's on the up and up thanks to all the friendly advice I'm getting. Jim |
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Post by ejparrott on Aug 12, 2014 7:55:37 GMT
Ah but on the other hand, if you get sent to Coventry, you're not far away to come and do my lining! Still admiring your handy work and contemplating just how on earth I'm going to do mine.....
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Post by Jim on Aug 13, 2014 8:22:51 GMT
I decided to rework the copper infills for the corners of the foundation ring to ensure full penetration of the silver when I start brazing the 2 sides in in the next day or so. There are still 2 or three small gaps and I'll plug them with short bits of copper wire. The it will be the pickle barrel for a good clean up and off to be brazed.  For something a bit different I've included the two BR Mk1's, an SK and a GB waiting to have interiors fitted. Sleeping peacefully under the coaches is the 3" Burrell SCC which gets a steam up every so often. Sadly the 5km runs we used to do along a sealed walking path are no longer possible due to a foot bridge being closed.  I've only just discovered you can resize the photos in the Preview which is handy as some of the photos linked to Photobucket can be pretty big. Jim. |
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Post by gingerneer on Aug 13, 2014 8:33:49 GMT
Great work Jim
Will
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2014 10:22:49 GMT
Thanks Will for the kind comment.
Life has now returned to normal after the excitement of the daughter's twins and since it was a nice sunny, calm day I decided to get in and braze in the remaining 2 sides of the foundation ring.
All seems to have gone well, especially the corners that I plugged with copper off-cuts and where I was worried that they may be packed too tightly for the silver to flow between the pieces. As it happened once things cooled down the corners were well sealed much to my delight.
I will go back and re work a couple of spots on one side that I feel could do with it. I might be over cautious but for me if I'm not 100% happy I have to have another go to get it right. Sadly that hasn't happened yet as I suddenly realised I'd used my last stick of silver solder and by the time I'd driven across town to a mate's to borrow 3 sticks time had run out.
So at the end of the day I can say we're nearly there..at long last. Pics to follow.
Jim
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 10:26:16 GMT
SNIP So at the end of the day I can say we're nearly there..at long last. Pics to follow. Jim After reading this I might just get the Brit out from behind the settee.....! John |
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2014 11:21:00 GMT
To see your Britannia back on the workbench and dusted off would be great John. When are you starting?  Jim. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 11:48:16 GMT
I agree with Jim.....let's see your Brit again John.....she deserves to be finished and steamed on the mainline...  Pete |
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Post by Jim on Aug 26, 2014 0:27:45 GMT
The right hand side foundation ring in place and brazed in. As mentioned earlier I want to redo a couple of spots on the LHS that I'm not sure about. It may not look pretty but I do want it right.  Jim |
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Post by Shawki Shlemon on Aug 26, 2014 9:09:59 GMT
Why worry about pretty ? Next is hydro test , then installation and covered with cladding . It is a relatively large boiler and you have done well , hope everything go as planned .
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Post by Jim on Aug 26, 2014 10:39:33 GMT
Thanks Shawki for your kind comments and as you say everything will be hidden from view under the cleading. It is a relatively large boiler and my back reminds me that it weighs 21kgs empty and a lot more when I haul it out of the pickle barrel half full of pickle.  I made up a fitting today to screw into one of the bushes so I can attach a garden hose to fill the boiler then keep it at mains pressure to check for leaks. All being well I'll then arrange to make the trip over to Orange for Barry to do the pressure test. Jim |
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Post by jma1009 on Aug 26, 2014 22:05:19 GMT
hi jim,
great to hear of final progress on the boiler!
i can imagine a bottle of bubbly being put on ice in anticipation of the testing!
cheers,
julian
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Post by Jim on Aug 27, 2014 6:31:40 GMT
Thanks indeed Julian for the kind thoughts. I haven't cracked the champers yet as I filled the boiler to tap pressure and sad to say I did need a brolly.  I have 5 pin holes in various places that will need attention before I make the trip to see the club boiler inspector. Having said that the main job is behind me and that's a big job out of the way. Thanks for your words of advice Julian and thank you too Shawki for your valued comments. Now I think after all today's excitement a soothing ale might be the order of the day.  Jim |
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