70036 Boadicea

[itchyballs]

next year jim, next year for dave

[pclass]

Very slowly Jim, two steps forward and one back LOL, maybe we will catch up somewhere, cheers Dennis

[Cro]

Just back on the removable section of the tender Jim I said I would show you what I did. This was a good 6/7 years ago so to me it's a bit rough but you get the idea.





Adam

[Jim]

I like those opening lockers and the bi fold doors to the coal bunker Adam and the lift out section gives you good access to the driver's side and freer access to the fireman's side. The sad part is that on the BR standard tenders all this lovely detail is hard to see. For anyone out there building or contemplating building a Britannia or 9F there is a range of ideas to choose from.

Thanks Adam,

Jim.

[Jim]

I've been slowly adding details to the business end of the tender. This is the bit I enjoy as I can see the flat plate slowly becoming something that looks like the front of the tender.
 
The pilot holes have been drilled at the corners for the jeweler's saw to cut out the rectangular hole for the water level indicator. It slipped my mind at the time when I should have done it. It's called 'a senior's moment' I think, not that I'm really a senior of course.




I've now got the plate for the tender sides and bunker top. It cost $16.00 cut to size and with a tour of the works tossed in as the salesman and I tried to find the foreman. A very interesting place with some serious heavy construction underway too not to mention the racks of all sorts of goodies.



The plate is 1mm and I'll make up former similar to the one Steve used to shape the sides of his tender.

Jim

[barlowworks]

Hi Jim

Don't forget there was an access panel for the water pick up apparatus on the sloping part of the tender side just behind the window, really quite noticeable but it's surprising how many tenders don't have it.

Mike

[Jim]

Thanks Mike for reminding me of that panel which as you say is often left off the models of BR tenders.
I've just popped out to the workshop to check the copy of the works GA drawing I have and it appears it's an access panel for the water level mechanism.
I've attached two photos of the plans that show the layout of mechanisms for the scoop and the water level.

This is the side view of the two sets of mechanisms, I tried rotating it to show it upright but for some reason it the wouldn't upload to photo-bucket.

Late Edit: Got it! I went back to the original in iView, rotated it and renamed it with .jpg rather than .JPG file ending and then uploaded it to Photobucket and deleted the earlier copy.




The plan view showing the water level actuating mechanism directly under the hatch,



Jim.

[barlowworks]

It all makes sense now I've seen that. There is a very good picture on one of the albums imported into the Frazer Ker site showing the bolt spacing. The panel looks to be very slightly inset into the tender side, only by about a couple of mill but it's amazing how it shows up in full size. Looking good Jim, it's amazing how a bit of detail makes it come alive.

Mike

[Jim]

Thanks Mike I hadn't looked at that feature so I'll go back to check it out on Frazer Ker's site, it's a gold mine of information I must say.

It is almost a study all of its own, checking the variations in what were BR1 standard tenders. Drawings I have of the BR1 tenders are all slightly different. For example while looking at the works drawing of the panel you described I suddenly spotted the very deep sides to the coal plate as it projected into the back of the cab yet in a photo I posted here on the previous page the sides to the plate are a simple triangles.

I think it may time for me to replenish my stocks of soothing ales.

[barlowworks]

My mantra has always been if it can be seen in a good photo you should put it in. Unfortunately, with the resolution of modern cameras nothing is missed. Bugger. 😏

[Jim]

I found the photo you mentioned Mike then, while checking the tender front I noticed the coal plate I put in yesterday was skew wiff and so had to be redone. Double Bugger.

Jim.

[steamer5]

Hi Jim,
 Making great progress!

On the coal plate......sounds like running out of soothing ales is causing issues, after all if you had some it would of been on the right angle!

Cheers Kerrin

[92220]

Hi Jim.

Great progress. Your thread will be so useful when I start making my tender tank! As for the hatch in the top of the left hand side of the tank, here is a scan of the hatchway dimensions from the Tank Arrangement drawing. Hope it helps. There's more if you need it.

Bob

[Jim]

Thanks Bob for the kind words though if I were you I would have a close look at Steve's Britannia build, he's much better organized and does things properly where I take short cuts that don't always work out.
The scan of the hatch would be very welcome. I think the little details like the hatch with its two lifting eyes really adds to the model and they don't take a lot of effort to make either.

Jim.

[springcrocus]

Apr 23, 2017 8:05:46 GMT Jim said:

Thanks Bob for the kind words though if I were you I would have a close look at Steve's Britannia build, he's much better organized and does things properly where I take short cuts that don't always work out.
The scan of the hatch would be very welcome. I think the little details like the hatch with its two lifting eyes really adds to the model and they don't take a lot of effort to make either.

Jim.

Not quite true, Jim, as you will see in a couple of posts time (mine, I might add). I've made a pigs ear and am going to need to modify it somehow.

With regard to the hatch, John (simplyloco) has a picture of his tender on here somewhere (3.1/2" gauge) and he has modelled the inspection plate, although I feel it looks a little chunky in his gauge. It would probably need 1/32" or smaller rivets to look authentic. I have a copy on my computer but will try to find a link to John's original. If he sees this, he may provide it himself.

Regards, Steve

[simplyloco]

Apr 23, 2017 8:15:17 GMT springcrocus said:

Apr 23, 2017 8:05:46 GMT Jim said:

Not quite true, Jim, as you will see in a couple of posts time (mine, I might add). I've made a pigs ear and am going to need to modify it somehow.

With regard to the hatch, John (simplyloco) has a picture of his tender on here somewhere (3.1/2" gauge) and he has modelled the inspection plate, although I feel it looks a little chunky in his gauge. It would probably need 1/32" or smaller rivets to look authentic. I have a copy on my computer but will try to find a link to John's original. If he sees this, he may provide it himself.

Regards, Steve

Nice to se you today Steve, and also nice to claim no credit for a certain tender as I haven't got beyond the rolling frame stage!
Luv
JB
PS. Seeing all those model engineers today with their boats and trains has given me a bit of a kick up the proverbial! Many thanks to the IOW club for that

[Jim]

Just mucking about while I think about what to do next now I've squared up the aperture for the water level indicator which I should have cut out when the plate was in the mark up stage.

Had to add the boss doing his picky checking.



Jim

[Jim]

Reg has very kindly sent me photos he took at the NRM of Evening Star showing the inspection/access hatch on the tender along with two very good detail shots of the window and frames on the tender front.







Of the many photos I took on our visits to the NRM when our daughter was living in Otley for 16 years not one them has been of any use in building Boadicea.

Jim.

[92220]

Sorry Jim. I don't know what happened but the scan didn't come out in my post. Here it is.........hopefully:



Bob

[92220]

Here is the cover plate too:-



Bob.