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Post by Andrew C on Jun 26, 2014 21:30:24 GMT
That's true Alan also on this particular loco the backhead is not lagged either. Better view in the picture in the link. Nice and toasty for the crew on a hot day in the tunnels
Rodger there is at least one more door type and that is the butterfly type think the bullied Pacific loco's were the only uk engines, very common in the us.
Andrew
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Post by jma1009 on Jun 27, 2014 0:10:48 GMT
here's the nearly completed Stroudley type firehole door fitted to the hinge block and tray assembly. it has had countless trial fits in the firehole on the boiler taking a bit off the steel here and there till fits and works ok. the firehole door is a steel fabrication sifbronzed together. i wouldnt normally bother describing such things as firehole doors, but ive never seen a Stroudley/Webb type firehole door in 5"g and is making an interesting project. cheers, julian  |
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Post by jma1009 on Jun 27, 2014 0:31:19 GMT
i must admit that LT Met No.1 would make a most interesting project and the more ive seen of this loco the more i get fond of it!
it seems to be an extremely well designed loco. somewhere ive still got a tin of that beautiful deep chocolately maroon paint left over from LT Neasden Works from painting my first loco...!
cheers,
julian
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 8:25:20 GMT
-----trouble with LT locos is they have a habit of departing every 20 mins !!  |
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Post by Jim Scott on Jun 27, 2014 9:35:40 GMT
Hmmmmm. The more this thread progresses the more disgruntled I get with the 'sow's ear' that I built (about 1980-ish) to Martin Evan's original boiler design. Thanks Ben for the pointer to the Met 1 round firehole door and Julian for the photos, I will eventually have to do something along these lines for Earlswood.
Julian, going back a page or two to your comments re loco plates. DC's are the best commercial plates I have seen, mine are passable for a first attempt. It is not too difficult to etch brass plates to a reasonable standard.
Tomorrow it's 'Happy Birthday' to "BOXHILL by Martin Evans". Three years old -doesn't time fly......
Cheers
Jim
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Post by jma1009 on Jun 28, 2014 21:31:36 GMT
hi jim! gosh 3 years! ive made the operating handle and mark 1 latch handle for the firehole door out of stainless. made a cock up with the slot in the latch handle whereas the slot should be in the operating handle! mark 2 tomorrow hopefully! 3/64" slots not my favourite thing to do in stainless! (btw all my stainless plate is very tough stuff ex shipyards on the IW!). the operating handle is a 'miniature' version of my scale Stroudley reverser lever. cheers, julian  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 21:43:03 GMT
I love that Julian... great piece of detail which adds so much to a model... makes it stand out from the rest... very nice
Pete
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Post by sncf141r on Jun 28, 2014 21:46:12 GMT
Julian;
Once again; really nice work and thanks for posting the pics. You really do get a lot more accomplished, to a very high standard than most.
Amazing, actually, that you did it without resorting to CNC. (Ok, ok, that last bits meant to be funny!)
JohnS.
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Post by jma1009 on Jun 28, 2014 22:00:33 GMT
hi pete and john,
many thanks for your very kind comments!
CNC free zone here!
i was a bit worried that the Stroudley type firehole door would be totally impractical in miniature but ive tried it out and it works ok including trying it with a few different sizes of shovels ive got and angle of viewing from the driving position.
the bottom flap referred to by Ben and George Ray will get fixed to the cab floor to avoid adding screwed fixings to the boiler backhead.
cheers,
julian
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 0:03:39 GMT
Well Done Julian ... that's a lovely bit of work.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by runner42 on Jun 29, 2014 1:19:42 GMT
Great work Julian love the firebox door.
Brian
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Post by shooter on Jun 29, 2014 7:08:04 GMT
As usual Julian, you lead, the rest of us follow.
That fire hole door is a piece of work for sure.
You will end up with a superb model.
Cheers for now. Steve
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Post by Roger on Jun 29, 2014 7:34:19 GMT
I'm beginning to realise that there are two distinct things about Model Locomotive building that stand out. It's futile to try to create every detail because it's simply not practical. Having said that, superb detail in the right place draws the eye to it, and that's exactly that this does. Mention that type of locomotive to someone in the know and I'm sure it's the cab detail they'll mention. Getting the overall look of the model is obviously important, but after that, picking which detail to lavish attention on is the key to inferring that the whole model is absolutely right to scale. This looks absolutely superb, and looking into the cab, it's what everyone is going to focus on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 7:56:26 GMT
It's a beautiful thing mate, very well done. Reminds me of all the great days on Fenchurch over the years!
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Post by jma1009 on Jun 29, 2014 10:47:41 GMT
glad you all like the firehole door thingy especially Ben though it isnt finished yet.
Roger's observation is interesting. STEPNEY is intended as a working loco not a showcase model and there is always a judgement to be made about the practicalities of making 'scale' bits on a loco so that they can be operated, be reliable, and durable, and if necessary repaired.
cheers,
julian
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Post by Jim on Jun 29, 2014 11:10:02 GMT
Never a truer word spoken Julian and hopefully when completed Boadicea will embody those views, at least that's what I'm aiming for.
Jim
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Post by davebreeze on Jul 12, 2014 21:56:16 GMT
I'd never seen the Stroudley firehole door before seeing Julian's on here, but I've been reading a book on Caledonian Railway locos I picked up in a second hand shop and it appears that the Stroudley door was standard (or common at least) on Caley locos too. Dugald Drummond introduced it on the 'Jumbo' 0-6-0 goods engines in the 1880's and you can see it in the cab drawings in Caley locos right up to 1922.
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Post by jma1009 on Jul 18, 2014 21:19:23 GMT
mental note note not to do anything in the workshop when dosed up on strong painkillers for back pain... (as the pills state dont use machinery etc!)
very bored stuck at home so decided to finish the blower valve for STEPNEY...
badly cut left index finger on lathe, and very dodgy silver soldering of spigots to same with silver solder all over the threads. finger solved with a bandage (didnt notice any pain due to the pills), and threads cleaned up with a special gadget i'd made previously which is basically a miniature thread runner made out of silver steel. however decided that was my lot for today!
after the above the miniature 'scale' blower valve is ok!
will post a pic or two on the 'scale boiler fittings' thread tomorrow without the blood everywhere!
reminds me of when i took the knuckle off another finger on a colchester bantum when 16 and was rushed to hospital!
cheers,
julian
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Post by Roger on Jul 19, 2014 6:45:10 GMT
Oh dear, that's not good, poor you! Yes, no pictures of blood please, there's enough of that on casualty, something I can't watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 8:54:10 GMT
be careful out there Julian...we all do these things especially when not on par....looking forward to seeing more pictures of the scale fittings....  Pete |
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