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Post by Roger on Feb 18, 2015 17:27:45 GMT
They look good Alan, what black paint do you use, is it from a spray can? Keep up the exercise, you don't have to go at it too hard for it to make a difference if you believe what they said recently on the BBC web site. I'm off for another round of Golf tomorrow, that's another 4 miles or so with various arm exercise thrown in.... a new hobby for you perhaps?
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Post by uuu on Feb 18, 2015 17:42:08 GMT
They look good Alan, what black paint do you use, is it from a spray can? The "Black Satin" tin on the bench is a clue? Wilf
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Post by Roger on Feb 18, 2015 19:21:10 GMT
Well spotted Wilf.... Doh!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 0:12:19 GMT
Roger, you really must take those sun-glasses off !!----------- I used Holts Satin Black spray in the main( Running boards, water tanks, cab..) but that tin of brush-applied paint you can see was for sprucing up the chassis...
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Post by runner42 on Feb 19, 2015 6:40:41 GMT
A doctor once said "You should walk your dog every day, wether you have a dog or not" Keep up the good work, we aren't ready to carry you yet If you call your dog "5 miles", you can say you walk 5 miles everyday.
Brian
PS Alan I hope the locomotive is well supported standing on her rear buffers and exposing her underneath to those that may peer in the window.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 11:36:07 GMT
A doctor once said "You should walk your dog every day, wether you have a dog or not" Keep up the good work, we aren't ready to carry you yet If you call your dog "5 miles", you can say you walk 5 miles everyday.
Brian
PS Alan I hope the locomotive is well supported standing on her rear buffers and exposing her underneath to those that may peer in the window.
------------- Reminds me about those who are employed by the Cunard Steamship Co. have to be careful just how they phrase their answer when asked}--- "Who do you work for?".........Cheers Brian, I've made sure her bottom is well held !!.......... I do hope that NO-ONE is looking in at the window as that's my back garden out there, not a pavement.....Last night I applied the first coat of red lining along the two soleplates and they are currently snug and warm drying-off on the top shelf in the airing cupboard........
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Post by smallbrother on Feb 19, 2015 13:25:28 GMT
Nice work there Alan.
I am concentrating on getting my mileage back up with the dog before I even think of going in the workshop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 0:45:45 GMT
Well, a wee bit more progress towards "Steam-Day"........ The soleplates painted in Humbrol Red ( Always seems to have an "oily" feel to it somehow ) and repairs to the draincock operating Cable-in-Tube system well under way......... .........................................
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:51:53 GMT
Another 5 hrs or so with very little to actually show for it I'm afraid.. The drain-cock linkage proved to be bent more than first would have appeared...So to day it's been removed, straightened (in several places, all of which were in a gap smaller than my smallest bench vice jaw width (3")..) ..Then all edges completely smoothed down and last vestiges of paint removed ( Lucky for me the "artist" who painted it hadn't used any primer and the poor quality enamel is just dropping off !!..)..... The drain-cock operating cab lever had already been removed and given the "Spruce-up" treatment, so that was re-fitted and connected to the finished cable itself....(New brass washers, grease etc... All the 2BA screws that attach the Cyls. to the mainframes were loose so they are ALL being replaced in rotation with my very good friend Mr. Green Loctite playing a major part here........... Incidentally I know the image shown of a 2BA tap with a nut pressed onto the square shank is "old hat" to you guys of long-standing, but here I've illustrated one possible scenario for its' use that the "Newbie" builders might appreciate ?? More later... Alan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 0:11:43 GMT
And before you ask}---- It's an optical illusion !! The tap is actually square to the work...
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Post by Roger on Mar 1, 2015 12:11:50 GMT
And before you ask}---- It's an optical illusion !! The tap is actually square to the work... I'd never doubt it for a minute! We used to have a simple tapping block at work, just a chunk of Mild Steel with a series of holes to suit the tap shank diameters to holes could be tapped quickly on the shop floor without having to line things up by eye. Simple but effective.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 12:36:24 GMT
Things often look out when using a wide angle camera lens which is what most phones have....look through my build and you'll see a number of things that look wrong...iirc one of the most obvious is a rear shot of the tender were you would swear that the top horizontal hand rail isn't actually horizontal....I assure you that it is... Pete
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 15:30:06 GMT
For square tapping at work ( on the APC's rather than back in the workshop) I had a pocket full of different "Top-Hat" type clevis pins with various "useful" size holes drilled in..... Same idea as yours Roger....
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Post by runner42 on Mar 1, 2015 22:28:37 GMT
Alan you wrote
Incidentally I know the image shown of a 2BA tap with a nut pressed onto the square shank is "old hat" to you guys of long-standing, but here I've illustrated one possible scenario for its' use that the "Newbie" builders might appreciate ??
I assumed that this was to enable some other form of leverage that could be applied because the limited space didn't allow the use of a die wrench, such as a small socket connected to a screwdriver type device. But your dialogue with Roger makes me think I've got it wrong.
Brian
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 0:44:15 GMT
Hi Brian---------- Yes, this is what it can be used for}----"I assumed that this was to enable some other form of leverage that could be applied because the limited space didn't allow the use of a die wrench, such as a small socket connected to a screwdriver type device."
Or an OE spanner or ring spanner....Wherever you can't employ the traditional twin-handled wrench..
The drilled-out clevis pins are for starting-off a tap square to it's hole when tapping free-hand ( ie--- not using a machine tapper)..
PS--- the holes can be slightly bigger to allow for other, near sizes..eg}--- 1/8" will do for 3mm and 5BA as well...
Hope that's of some use ??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 20:54:40 GMT
Well here's a bit more "run-of-the-mill" progress...Following on from the previous image I have now removed all old bolts, run the "nut" tap down each hole, washed with paraffin and blow-dried..... New 2BA screws with a steel washer ( Builder hadn't fitted those so paint was lifted by the screw head's turning action !!)..and a touch of the "Green stuff" = Loctite 2701 completes the work in hand...... I had considered retro-fitting studs in lieu of those screws, but life's too short and that should really have been done during the original build anyway, if at all............... Each individual screw operation took about 10 to 15 mins. to complete, and there are 18 altogether ( 9 of which were "Left-Handed" so to speak..)...Plus 2 unexpected callers during the day ---- (and the daily 5-mile walk), all of which means I just managed to finish them AND connect the drain-cock linkage before this evenings Dinner--Phew !!--
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 20:59:01 GMT
Quick question for you all--------- At this point I have the best access ever to the lube. oil pipe.....Shall I fit an in-line check valve ??....
As this loco is new to me I've no history of any probs. that might have happened but I thought I'd Ask the Team !!
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Post by runner42 on Mar 2, 2015 21:59:57 GMT
Alan,
I don't know if I have earned my stripes to be one of the team, but I would say it depends on the type of mechanical lubricator that is fitted. LBSC type design which resembled a wobbler insisted for that design no steam could be pushed back into the mechanical lubricator, even if the check valve failed but went on to fit a check valve at the mechanical lubricator O/P and a second check valve at the junction of the split to the two cylinders. There has been debate on this forum of the benefit of two check valves, I have no practical experience but have been influenced by the advice provided and have two check valves fitted. If it easy to fit one do so.
Brian
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Post by goldstar31 on Mar 2, 2015 22:18:15 GMT
Alan, I'm sorry but unless I'm having a very senior moment, 'dillys' of the local NCB and formerly Stella Coal co and Priestman's were a dull pit red. My father actually 'boilered' them. I presume that that meant that the tubes were renewed by him- certainly on the one at Greenside Colliery. I recall that he smashed his thumb doing this in very early 1947 and was admitted to the Royal Victoria in Newcastle- where he was bedmate to a number of miners who had been riddled with shale in a misfire. I'm quite clear because of two things. There is a village called Red Row, ironically painted green now and the gable end of a local house which was photographed much later- and painted red.
I would put this colour as red ochre pigment and dull.
Maybe you could comment!
Cheers meantime
Norman
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Post by jma1009 on Mar 2, 2015 22:41:22 GMT
hi norman,
very interesting to hear of your dad's experiences, and sorry to hear about his accident.
a quick search through books and on the net indicates that certainly in latter years there was no particular NCB livery and was up to each coal board region and local pits and what they had available as paint. ive lots of pics and film of the local south wales NCB fleet and they are all painted in various colours, though majority are in various shades of green.
cheers, julian
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