NSWGR 5" gauge C32 Build

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Hi all,

I have started my C32 build in a slightly different way, in that I bought a set of castings and plans from the SMEX site after advertising in the WANTED section.  The deal was supposed to be a set of plans, castings less the cylinders, ends, steam chests and covers.  Also included was a 24" length of 5 1/2" x 1/8" drawn copper tube for the boiler.   I have since obtained the cylinder blocks, ends, steam chests and covers.

I have since discovered that I am also deficient castings for the leading bogie bearing, the leading bogie axle boxes, the driving and coupled keeps, two tender bogie axle boxes, loco brake ring, and smoke box ring.  I will try and get those from E & J Winter.

Interestingly, once I had worked out what was deficient, I also found a lot of "surplus" castings, mainly in bronze which I can't identify.  I think they may be for a 3 1/3 gauge locomotive.  When I get time, I will post photos of the surplus bits which some of you more experienced builders may recognize.

As it turns out, the plans were incomplete by about 4 sheets and there were about another four sheets that were illegible, so I have also got a new set of plans, though when they arrived they were deficient 4 sheets , so I am still waiting for those.  I don't think the new owner of E&J Winter has got it all together yet!!

I have also ordered a set of laser-cut main frames and am still waiting for those.

The build had been started about 20 years ago and the tender frames had been started, along with tender bogies and the loco leading bogie. All were in a very sorry and very rusty state, but have cleaned up pretty well.
  
Therefore I have been busy making lots of small components, turning axles and wheels, and adding bits and pieces to the tender frame.

The biggest problem I have come across so far is trying to make the 8 leaf springs for the tender.  I have tried cutting up steel strapping but find it very difficult to get it all aligned and looking real.  Any suggestions in this regard would be appreciated.

As soon as I get some time, I will posts pics of what I have so far, and also pics of what I think are surplus castings belonging to a smaller gauge locomotive.

This has been a rather long-winded introduction, but I hope it will give you all an idea of where I am or am not with this new build.

Cheers,

Ned

[Jim]

Hi Ned,
Nice to see a NSWGR C32 build starting, they were lovely locos and with quite a turn of speed too given their relatively small drivers.
You have my full sympathy working with a part set of castings. On the positive side you'll find that many of the missing parts can be fabricated with a bit of ingenuity and lateral thinking.

Look forward to following you progress Ned.

Jim.

[ejparrott]

Certainly in the UK you can buy 'soft' spring steel which you can form as required and then harden and temper. I'm sure you can get it in Oz too.

[NSWGR Steambuff]

To begin with, I will post a few pics of what I think are surplus castings received with the C32 set.

I should add that I have never built a locomotive before, so I apologize in advance for any questions which may seem dumb to the more experienced builder.

The castings pictured are all bronze plus a couple of brass bits that have been manufactured.  If anybody recognizes any of these castings or bits I would be interested in knowing what they are, and indeed if anybody can use them please let me know.

ONLY PROBLEM IS I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY IN UPLOADING THE PICS.  MY FIRST DUMB QUESTION IS HOW DO I UPLOAD PHOTOGRAPHS?  They are about 400kb in size.  I tried using the Ad Attachment tab but get an error message that the files are too large, but they are well below the 1mb max size.

EDIT: The error message is "THIS FORUM HAS EXCEEDED IT'S ATTACHMENT SPACE LIMIT". 

Any suggestions??

Cheers,

Ned

[Deleted]

Looking forward to seeing this build Ned. Is there a list of worldwide suppliers? I feel like we are missing out on some interesting prototypes here as they mostly appear to be British loco designs available to us.
Ben

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Hi Ben,

I don't know of a list of world wide suppliers. This loco was originally designed and built for the NSWGR by Beyer Peacock & Company in the UK.

This site www.ejwinter.com.au/ is a good source of Australian and other prototypes which may be of interest to you, although it has recently changed hands and the service so far has been less than desirable.   Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Ned

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Jim,

I just had a look at your Boadicea build. Very impressive work. Out of interest, what material did you use for the tender leaf springs?

Ned

[Jim]

G'day Ned,

Thanks for the kind comments Ned.
With regard the tender's leaf springs, like you I only had a part set of castings for the Britannia and one of the missing bits was a casting for a tender leaf spring.
I fabricated the missing casting spring from lengths of suitable brass strip cut to length with combinations of brass square and half round rod to make up the end brackets.
I sourced my coil springs from new plastic clothes pegs, I'd have been killed if caught using the 'boss's' pegs and fitted them between the bearing block and the base of the leaf buckle supply the 'spring'.
The photos are fairly self explanatory, in the first the top item is the original casting with the fabricated one below and in the second the dummy castings are in place with the coil springs just visible.

As with much of this hobby there are always alternative solutions and opinions on how things should or could be done but in the end it's your model to build as you like.

All the best with the C32.

Jim

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Thanks for the info and pics Jim. The springs were a good solution.

Incidentally, when you posted the photos did you use the "Add Attachment" method?

When I try to insert a photo I get an error message saying "this forum has exceeded it's attachment limit", hence no photos so far.

Thanks,

Ned

[Deleted]

Jul 10, 2014 7:42:24 GMT NSWGR Steambuff said:

Thanks for the info and pics Jim. The springs were a good solution.

Incidentally, when you posted the photos did you use the "Add Attachment" method?

When I try to insert a photo I get an error message saying "this forum has exceeded it's attachment limit", hence no photos so far.

Thanks,

Ned

Hi Ned

Interesting prototype, I look forward to seeing it build as time moves on....Regarding posting pictures, you need to use a host such as Photobucket, upload there, click on the 'direct link' tab which you'll find to the bottom right of your picture once opened. Come back to the forum, open 'insert image' tab and paste your link into it, be sure to remove the 'http' part that you'll see in the 'insert tab' box when opened, just use what you have copied from the 'direct link' to your image in photobucket.

good luck

Pete

[Shawki Shlemon]

Hi Ned , that is a very good engine , this may help
modeleng.proboards.com/thread/5073/current-project-nsw-32

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Jul 10, 2014 8:45:34 GMT @greenglade said:

Jul 10, 2014 7:42:24 GMT NSWGR Steambuff said:

Thanks for the info and pics Jim. The springs were a good solution.

Incidentally, when you posted the photos did you use the "Add Attachment" method?

When I try to insert a photo I get an error message saying "this forum has exceeded it's attachment limit", hence no photos so far.

Thanks,

Ned

Hi Ned

Interesting prototype, I look forward to seeing it build as time moves on....Regarding posting pictures, you need to use a host such as Photobucket, upload there, click on the 'direct link' tab which you'll find to the bottom right of your picture once opened. Come back to the forum, open 'insert image' tab and paste your link into it, be sure to remove the 'http' part that you'll see in the 'insert tab' box when opened, just use what you have copied from the 'direct link' to your image in photobucket.

good luck

Pete

Thanks Pete.  Looks like I will have to go the photobucket route, although the site does offer an attachment option, so one would assume it would also work.

Cheers,

Ned

[Deleted]

Hi Ned

FYI I'm afraid that it did work but we have reached the max for the forum, hence why we all need to use a host now.

Cheers

Pete

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Jul 10, 2014 10:13:48 GMT Shawki Shlemon said:

Hi Ned , that is a very good engine , this may help
modeleng.proboards.com/thread/5073/current-project-nsw-32

Thanks Shawki,

I had already discovered your build and was impressed with both the model and the speed with which it was built. 

If you don't mind me asking, what material/method did you use for the tender leaf springs.  So far into the build, I have been able to nut out the plans and make the parts, but the leaf springs really have me scratching my head.  I tried cutting up steel strapping but just cannot get them to stay straight and look presentable.  Looking at your photographs it looks like you may have used a thicker material with fewer leaves.  Any thoughts/ideas would be appreciated;

Cheers,

Ned

[Jim]

Hi Ned,

Like Pete I use photobucket as you may have noticed browsing the Boadicea photos. Once you have you photo uploaded you go to the 'Get Links' it's a drop down menu that appears when you click the gear wheel in the top RH corner of the photo. Go to Image Codes at the bottom and and click in the box whech turns yellow and 'copied' appears. All you do then is return to your post and click paste or control v and the link is pasted. You'll see your picture in "preview" or when you click 'create post'

The 32class were nice looking locos and as Shawki says make a great model. Are you intending to make yours as one of the named 32's as in you avitar?

Jim

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Thanks Pete and Jim for the clues on photobucket.

These pics are of bronze and brass castings etc which I believe are not belonging to the C32.

If any body recognizes them or needs any of them please let me know.

I can now get on with posting pics of where I am at with the build.

Cheers,

Ned

[Jim]

Hi Ned,
Unless you are absolutely certain that the castings aren't for a 32 class I'd be hesitant about giving them away. I'd also hang on to the brake blocks as they could be very handy when you come to make your driving trolley.

Jim.

[ejparrott]

Some interesting engines over in Oz...had a look through the Winter catalogue yesterday, the D50 looks nice

[NSWGR Steambuff]

EJP,

Yes, the D50 (280 built), D53 (190 built), and D55 (120 built) were commonly known as the Standard Good Engines over here and all these 2-8-0 engines gave stirling service to the NSWGR over many years.

Cheers,

Ned

[NSWGR Steambuff]

Jul 10, 2014 23:15:40 GMT Jim said:

Hi Ned,
Unless you are absolutely certain that the castings aren't for a 32 class I'd be hesitant about giving them away. I'd also hang on to the brake blocks as they could be very handy when you come to make your driving trolley.

Jim.

Hi Jim,

I will hang on to them for the time being, but would still like to at least identify them.

Cheers,

Ned